Test drove the 488 today!!
09-18-2015, 07:20 AM
#32
Not a fan
Haven't driven the 488, but took the new California to lunch while waiting for my Ferrari dealer to finish prepping my Speciale for pickup.
EXTREMELY impressed w/ the California. Only drove a couple miles, but "butt" factor told me the engine was really amazing. Was really impressed. My only reservation was the muted sound. But, wasn't sure it was fair to compare a California to a 488?
That said, I'm just not a fan of the 488 because I don't like turbos. Something about the N/A in a Ferrari makes it what it is to me.
I've never been a "garage queen" owner and broke my Speciale in, straight off the trailer on to a track. Same as my GT3.
So, for my type of use, I will take the GT3, STILL "7 days a week and twice on Sunday" over the Speciale. (Granted, GT3 track setup vs. bone stock Speciale). I did a writeup on other thread, so won't bore.
It's just "feelings", but when I drive the GT3 on track, I feel the "hunter." When driving the Speciale, I feel "hunted." Just saying.
EXTREMELY impressed w/ the California. Only drove a couple miles, but "butt" factor told me the engine was really amazing. Was really impressed. My only reservation was the muted sound. But, wasn't sure it was fair to compare a California to a 488?
That said, I'm just not a fan of the 488 because I don't like turbos. Something about the N/A in a Ferrari makes it what it is to me.
I've never been a "garage queen" owner and broke my Speciale in, straight off the trailer on to a track. Same as my GT3.
So, for my type of use, I will take the GT3, STILL "7 days a week and twice on Sunday" over the Speciale. (Granted, GT3 track setup vs. bone stock Speciale). I did a writeup on other thread, so won't bore.
It's just "feelings", but when I drive the GT3 on track, I feel the "hunter." When driving the Speciale, I feel "hunted." Just saying.
09-18-2015, 06:15 PM
#35
Race Director
Test drove the 488 today!!
Good Exhaust noise is not about volume, it's about clean sound waves. A turbo makes the engine rotations muffled instead of clean and distinct.. Straight pipes on a turbo just give you a loud vacuum cleaner sound
09-19-2015, 06:43 PM
#37
09-19-2015, 07:43 PM
#38
While I agree they will still sell every one of them I think that unlike past models 458 owners may not be chomping at the replacement....I for one do not see spending the $100K delta to get the 488 given the single most important aspect of the car for me is the sound....
09-19-2015, 09:38 PM
#39
Nordschleife Master
09-20-2015, 09:02 AM
#41
It's definitely more than that but for me the biggest factor is the sound....I actually like the 488 design better....but the sound kills it for me....I haven't watched an F1 race in its entirety since they went turbo....it's just not as exciting....there was nothing better on a Sunday morning than an F1 standing start with the TV volume blasted....
09-20-2015, 09:24 AM
#42
Nordschleife Master
09-20-2015, 01:23 PM
#43
Rennlist Member
Agree with the assertion made earlier about the GT3 being the bargain of the century. As far as feeling hunted vs the hunter in speciale vs GT3, there is some truth to that, though for me it has to do with maintenance costs and overall fear factor of damaging the car. Although these cars are "designed" to tolerate the extremes of tracking, one can't help but feel more confident in pushing a the GT3 vs the speciale (which to be honest, I have never even tracked) based on value and replacement cost alone. The cars both instill unbelievable confidence in the driver. The GT3 feels more grounded (and more heavy), the speciale's throttle response is significantly faster.
09-20-2015, 03:12 PM
#44
Except for the 918 and possibly the GT3, do not expect a porsche to sound like a sports car or a atleast an exotic. Lets admit it, they just are inadequate.
Evidence, there are more Pcar owners who are wanting to upgrade their exhaust rather than let say a ferrari owner. The first time I was planning to buy my ferrari, I was hesitant going there, but after I heard the exhaust, I cannot wait to give the keys. Thats a 997.2 C4s to a F430.
But, I am satisfied with my GT3 and I dont think I would upgrade. It sounds like my E60 M5 V10, thats pretty good. But not a V8 ferrari. Its more mechanical sounds, brut force.
A friend of mine always says, a ferrari always sounds the fastest in the track but not necessarily true if you look at the speedo, a tame porsche is right behind. I am sorry, the porsche is also upfront :>. maybe thats why I have not gotten a speeding ticket with my ferrari ever, I feel like I a driving 100 mph when I am only 65 mph with 4000 rpm.
Evidence, there are more Pcar owners who are wanting to upgrade their exhaust rather than let say a ferrari owner. The first time I was planning to buy my ferrari, I was hesitant going there, but after I heard the exhaust, I cannot wait to give the keys. Thats a 997.2 C4s to a F430.
But, I am satisfied with my GT3 and I dont think I would upgrade. It sounds like my E60 M5 V10, thats pretty good. But not a V8 ferrari. Its more mechanical sounds, brut force.
A friend of mine always says, a ferrari always sounds the fastest in the track but not necessarily true if you look at the speedo, a tame porsche is right behind. I am sorry, the porsche is also upfront :>. maybe thats why I have not gotten a speeding ticket with my ferrari ever, I feel like I a driving 100 mph when I am only 65 mph with 4000 rpm.
09-20-2015, 03:17 PM
#45
Agree with the assertion made earlier about the GT3 being the bargain of the century. As far as feeling hunted vs the hunter in speciale vs GT3, there is some truth to that, though for me it has to do with maintenance costs and overall fear factor of damaging the car. Although these cars are "designed" to tolerate the extremes of tracking, one can't help but feel more confident in pushing a the GT3 vs the speciale (which to be honest, I have never even tracked) based on value and replacement cost alone. The cars both instill unbelievable confidence in the driver. The GT3 feels more grounded (and more heavy), the speciale's throttle response is significantly faster.