STG

15K over sticker? Plus you need to pay sales tax?

I'd rather give the over sticker money to a dealer. At least they'll give you a free pen or floor mats

Are you really crazy about this color? Or are you open to others?

Flowmacks

You have a point. He probably filled out the whole thing wrong, and didn't set a reserve. He mentions the $169K, but it's set up as a no-reserve auction. So, I was thinking I'm in at or below sticker.

Unless I'm reading it all wrong.

Z356

It's the 'Arena Red Metallic' gt3 that was allocated to Sewickley Porsche by PCNA.
Here is the latest post on that thread about this car:

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...y-gt3s-62.html

I talked to the sales manager at Sewickley when we identified that one of the
'Arena Red' gt3s was coming to them. He told me that it was being sold to a
local customer (assume is our seller). That was posted on post # 168 back on
3/27/2015:

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...l#post12157280

We have been busy here at this Rennlist forum since March trying to identify &
locate each one of these 30 PTS late allocation MY2015 gt3s! I suggest it might
be helpful for you read the entire thread to get a better understanding of this
run of PTS gt3s, why many readers of Rennlist ended up buying one and others
went in a different direction!

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...grey-gt3s.html

Good luck with your negotiations if you decide to pursue it.

*****

The Monroney includes destination & gas guzzler. So true 'sticker' is
actually $155,025.



The eBay seller claims he has $169K invested in this gt3. So let's do the math.
I think the gt3 was sold to him at Sewickley at MSRP. I don't think he paid a
markup or premium over sticker. some markup from that. Some the difference
between the $155,025 sticker and his $169,000 invested figure is sales tax &
registration (that should be easy to compute). The balance, if any, is whatever
else he added to the vehicle (e.g. clear bra, if it has one) after the purchase.
But since you can't ask questions...we will just have to make educated guesses.

**********

Not really a 'special edition' since, like also the term 'Limited Edition', that has a
particular meaning in the automotive industry. And these 30 PTS gt3s don't fit
that 'billing'. We have been told that these PTS gt3s were more like 'bonus cars'
which were assigned to a few PCNA dealers as some sort of a reward. But I am
still trying to find out, as Paul Harvey used to said, the rest of the (real) story!

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.

STG

There was an eBay auction for the Club Coupe and discussed on the 991 forum. A forum member was the winning bidder at 80-90K or something on a non reserve auction. What do you think the seller did?? Obviously back out because he didn't like the price (for obvious reasons). He was clueless too on setting up eBay listings.

sgroer

He does say "Otherwise it will run till sold with no reserve."

Flowmacks

Yeah, well I seem to be getting outbid by someone with zero feedback, and and a bid history shows that they've only bid on this car. So, I'm assuming it's him.

I would ask him, but that's not allowed.....

ElectricChair

SOLD for MSRP

Winning bid: US $154,101.00

* Buyer has 0 feedback.

STG

Which means you'll see this car for sale again. A guy like this would never let it go for 154K. He thought he was doing everyone a favor at 169K. Probably a shill bidder.

Flowmacks

Wonder if he has to pay the eBay commission when he wins his own auctions.

I guess we'll know when it's re-listed tomorrow. "I have $171K invested".

STG

He'll just cancel the transaction between the "high bidder" and himself to avoid any fees.

llstuey

Ouch. Seems like there are better deals out there unless you really love ARM.

NateOZ

Winning bid:US $154,101.00

Paul Blake

well, he found the market value - MSRP.

Z356

I don't think that is what anyone should take away from this auction.
The market value of on those PTS gt3s, even the least sought-after
color which was 'Arena Red Metallic', is today higher than their MSRP.
But you need a seller than understands the selling game & knows how
to play it.

"Car is priced to sell so don't ask me any questions. If you want
it then bid. If not, move on. I could care less."

This Pennsylvania seller is clearly an arrogant individual that doesn't
understand sales or marketing. In addition, doesn't know very well
what he has in his hands to sell. Contrast this to Ivon's results just
a few weeks ago. And that was not the best example of marketing
one of these PTS cars either...but it's much better than 'I could care
less'!

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...allic-gt3.html

The results of the PA auction reflect the eBay's public reaction to
the seller's haughty selling notes and intolerant mood. The market
spoke alright...and said 'you don't care about us and we don't
care about you or your stupid car. You move on!'. That is the lesson
here. And its aimed at hitting back at the seller for his demonstrable
arrogance!

Frankly, the seller doesn't know how to market a very desirable car.
Even supermodels, gifted like any gt3 with 'natural' talents & beauty,
need to put on lipstick and rouge when they are at their 'jobs'. In
the same manner, you need to explain to the market what you have,
why it's so special, and create sizzle in the steak you are trying to sell.
And, above all else, show a genuine interest for answering all questions
a potential buyer may have for your 'product'. This seller broke every
rule of successful marketing & sales. And, in this light, the results are
not surprising. But don't confuse it, or interpret it, as an auction that
sets the market value for any of these late '15 allocation PTS gt3s.
Because you would be wrong about that.

My dos centavos, for what it's worth.

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

Seller's Notes:

"2015 Porsche GT3 with 753 miles, excellent condition,
no accidents or paintwork, Ext Paint to Sample Metallic,
Int-Black/Alcantara Guards Red Stitching, Ext range
fuel tank, Front seats heated, Sound Pkg Plus,
Front axle lift, LED headlights w/Dynamic Light System,
Light Design Pkg, Sport Chron with Track APP, Leather
int with red stitching, Floor mats, Auto dimming mirros
with rain sensor, Clear bra on entire front end and mirrors
($1,700 dollar option) Car is immaculate, no problems.
I just got my 2016 GT3 RS so I don't need this car anymore.
I have $169,000 in to this car. Anyone that wants to send
a check for $169k I will end the auction early. Otherwise
it will run till sold with no reserve. Car is priced to sell so
don't ask me any questions. If you want it then bid. If
not, move on. I could care less."
.

Ma991

Totally agree with you Eduardo, the arrogance came thru loud and clear with that listing. Just for the record, that was not my car on the ebay listing.

I just found out yesterday that the person who wanted my GT3 has had a family issue and can't go thru with the purchase at this time. My car is still available and I'll be updating my listing and adding more pictures this weekend.