carcommander

Most Ferrari dealers require you to sign an agreement that says for the first year you have to give them the 1st right of refusal at MSRP. I just signed one for a 488.

sccchiii

Ferrari dealers are trying to protect from flippers yes.....however with the potential costs involved it remains to be seen on how enforceable these will be. The Ferrari dealer also had me sign a no export agreement and according to FNA are having little effect on the number of Ferrari exports either especially from Florida market.

Jon H

Anyone who wishes to remain in good standing with FNA and their
local Ferrari dealer wouldn't flip a car anyway, knowing that if they
did it would be the last new car they would ever get.

However you can't stop those who are just in it for a flip and quick
money regardless of what they sign.

TRAKCAR

Its 100K here. They don't even pretend to be selling used cars or customers cars like they used to. You pay 100K over for a car you can spec end of story.

Ill go with 964RS.

For low option cars, it can be worth it to pay over MSRP because the at MSRP cars specced by dealers or ballers will more more $$

I'm Peter and I'm a flipper.

carcommander

If you flip it or export it you won't get another new one. If you are not a very good customer you won't get an early car. Porsche or Ferrari. You can't just roll in off the street and get an early RS or 488.

rockitman

Regarding the 488, you gain 100 hp and lose the Ferrari NA soul. No thanks. I think there are many 458 owners who have no interest in the 488. My prediction...the 488 will be a sales bomb compared to the 458.

NateOZ

488 seems to be doing very well already - most markets/dealers seem to be a 2 year wait at the moment. I know that's the case in Australia and at my local dealer in Greenwich when I got on the list about 6 to 9 months ago. That was based on them assuming that 2/3rds of the people on the list would pull out too...

sccchiii

Of course been like that for some time but that applies more to Ferrari than Porsche and the store I have been buying my F cars from for 20 years now believes that with Montezemolo gone, a couple years from now it won't be so hard to walk in off street to get one.

FORENN

NM, question answered.

carcommander

Yep just like current demand for the PDK GT3 and RS. They made a ton of 458's. It will depreciate like any used car. Hold on to your socks. Ferraris are about the latest and greatest unless the are very limited production specials.

488 won't bomb.

carcommander

As long as the cars are great it really doesn't matter to me.

rockitman

You could be right...there will be enough people willing to submit to to the tree hugger super car mentality...
I would rather have a modded turbo Porshe if I needed to submit....

Drifting

You and car commander are true car enthusiasts. I agree with you in that a 458/Speciale are the Ferraris to own and I plan to buy a 458 in two years after the prices have come down.

However a significant portion of Ferrari owners are just poseurs (not tree huggers) who just need to be seen in the latest and greatest Ferrari, even if it's a turbo, so there are waitlists for the 488.

NateOZ

So much Turbo hate - I remember the 1980s in F1 when it was a Turbo charging race with Ferrari also trying to be front and center. I have more interested in the 488 than the 458 because it'll be different and important for Ferrari to prove they can get FI right for street cars. The history of Hybrids and Turbos was front and center in motorsports way before any environmental agenda - just another way to get more performance...

carcommander

Well, I already have that box checked.

The 488 will have some more HP and a bunch more torque. I have had my 458 for 3 years, I would like something different anyway.