Ceepe

Obviously it's impossible to fully exercise these cars on the street. Unless you live in a remote mountain community with perfect roads. That would be lovely.

But how many of these cars never see the track, percentage wise? And in that case of ownership, why would someone not want a more road going set-up, with a little more clearance, a little softer ride, and manual gearbox? Maybe even a back seat.

I guess it ties into thinking of the car as resale potential. Which is not unlike an artist thinking about what kind of art one should make for the market. You're dead at that point.

I get a feeling from the car when I'm up it, that it's smiling and that it's happy. The rhythm and feelings that develop seem so true and purpose driven in those moments. The concerns of life seem to disappear. It might be the only time my thoughts are turned off and I am only thinking of the next turn and the machine I am piloting. There are those moments when it happens on the street, but it's 20 seconds here and 15 seconds there, interrupted by the pothole approaching. A handful in a period of months and years. At least in the congested areas I live.

I had a 911 before this car with beautiful paint and pretty features. I worried about it getting marks. I didn't want to park it anywhere. When I got the GT3 I felt relief from all that. It was 50k more, but to me it feels like a car that can show off its wear proudly. It might even go beyond that, the looks being irrelevant completely and the internals being all that matter. If that makes a future buyer less interested in paying top dollar, so be it. Less worry, more drive!

Kobalt

+1

A GT3 is a tool to go fast, not stay pretty.
I get upset when I get marks and scrubs when not in combat. Really hate it. On the track it doesn't matter - just proof that the car has been used.

/NotAGarageQueen

mooty

two great posts...
wear the marks proudly!

DMoore

Along the same lines - my PCA chapter had its annual concours d'elegance several weeks ago. Cars were there that looked like they only saw the light of day once a year. I found myself wishing that I'd just come directly from a track day, with marble smears, dirt and bugs on the car. It would have been a great contrast. "They obsess over their cars, I play with mine!"

Sadly, it had been a few weeks and I'd already washed it. I'm going to keep this in mind for next year. I don't know if people will laugh or throw stones at me for my disrespect.

DMoore
'15 GT3
'13 Panamera GTS

NateOZ

Add mine to the list of unhappy garage queens, not because of concern of damage etc but I've emotionally moved on from the car so only take it out when I need to use it - rather than pleasure drives. Nothing I want to replace it with until the RS arrives, so it just sits there unhappy and unloved...

NSD991

Unhappy here. A daily driver and no track time. I know exactly what you a referring to in those rare moments when the car gets opened up!

Sloopy

While mine is looking pretty sitting in the garage it is not for long. With and wrap and C Quarts Finest it stays looking good but.................

I live in the Mountains you mention with many very lightly traveled roads. It is here where I like to wonder; just me, at one with my machine.

MaxLTV

Not pointing fingers at mooty - he's what he says he is - but many people who say this and other things like chip marks are only patina, and track driving does not influence resale, then say/post - "I came to see that car, and it had some chips on a bumper, so I just left". Pisses me off.

Mike in CA

Take a look at the inside of your exhaust pipes. If they're sooty and black you have an unhappy garage queen. If they're a clean and light gray you have a happy, properly used car. Mine are gray....

MaxLTV

Mine are covered with some white crystals.

ezdriver

Not everyone has to track their car to enjoy it thoroughly. People who own collection of cars for example. I won't say that they don't enjoy their cars. enjoyment comes in different shapes, sizes and colors....

I enjoy my C4S when at high speeds.

Ceepe

Yes, but this post is about a car that is a purpose built weapon, with a threshold so high it cannot be fully experienced on public roads. At least most roads. Certainly cruising around in a mint E-type could be enjoyable.

STG

As is the case for all of today's modern high end sports cars.

People enjoy cars and material things in different ways. I don't make judgment on how other people decide to spend their hard earned money.

There's a pretty diverse group on Rennlist with guys "into" many different aspects of car ownership.

Mods
Tracking
Detailing
DIY
Audio
Street Driving
New car every 6 months

You get the picture. Whatever makes you happy..

My guess, non-tracked GT3's? I'd say well over 50%

Ceepe

All true. My posts sound like a judgmental D bag. Ignore me, I don't know what I'm saying.

STG

Ha ha

I think you do have a point. All the concern about finding and advertising "non tracked" cars, when in theory it really shouldn't matter but it does.

Then everyone worried about resale if they indeed do use it as intended.

It's a vicious circle.

Just drive it how you want and have fun. Don't worry about the resale.