Is the GT3 Quicker than the GT3 RS?
06-14-2015, 08:57 PM
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06-14-2015, 09:38 PM
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After a certain speed, the greater downforce of the RS will make it slower than a GT3 in a straight line. The GT3 has a top speed of 195 MPH, while the RS has a top speed of 193 MPH.
06-14-2015, 09:51 PM
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Exactly what I was about to say, but at the end of the day, 150+ mph acceleration probably has very little practical meaning for most.
06-14-2015, 10:34 PM
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The RS is slower than the GT3.
But Dan's (or his parenthetical voice, hfm) question was which one was quicker.
Not so much which one was faster.
06-14-2015, 11:22 PM
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Welcome to Ferrari world. It's way more visceral engaging at street speeds. Gt3 you have rev the hell out to get the same sensation of speed.
06-15-2015, 01:29 AM
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with all due respect, what a ridiculous post and question
do u think porsche would allow this to be? seriously...
do u think porsche would allow this to be? seriously...
I usually don't care about 0-60 times, they are generally the stuff of magazine racing. If anything, I usually like to look at a quarter mile time for purposes of comparison. But, I noticed that the 0-60 times for the GT3-RS at 3.3 seconds as reported by Wiki is slower than GT3 reported at 3.1 or 3.0 seconds as reported by Car and Driver and Road and Track.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911_GT3
I went back to look at the link posted and the detailed page from C&D that previously existed was wiped and a replacement page that was abbreviated still said a 3 second time but was not as convincing as the earlier version that used to exist there. I considered changing the Wiki post I made about the 0-60 time for the GT3 that came in at 3 seconds flat per C&D. But, I left it alone since it is a documented article.
So, later in time and sure enough, someone changed my initial post to reflect a 0-60 time of the GT3 as being under 3.5 seconds. Now, here is the thing, C&D had done the test and they got a 3.0 or they wouldn't have published that time. I did a check with R&T and they have a 3.1 second time. So, I've updated the information because, I have no idea where the other guy came up with the under 3.5 second time that wasn't referenced with any citation. The Wiki site now reflects a GT3 0-60 claimed time of 3.1 seconds or less since there are two articles that support that as a matter of fact.
So, it begs the question, how fast is the GT3-RS? Porsche is likely conservative. You'd like to think it's faster than the GT3 but, perhaps, like it's top speed being less than the GT3 because of it's aero, it's also slightly slower to sixty? Wait, never mind. Wiki shows the GT3-RS takes 3.3 seconds to sixty but the Porsche site says 3.1 seconds. http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/911-gt3-rs/ Oh, wait again, that's a 0-62. Hrm, yeah, so, RS is quicker? Hrm, the press release in the footnote says 0-60 at 3.1. Eh, it's just all over the place.
Dan (isn't trolling future GT3-RS owners...but is rather defending GT3 statistics)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911_GT3
I went back to look at the link posted and the detailed page from C&D that previously existed was wiped and a replacement page that was abbreviated still said a 3 second time but was not as convincing as the earlier version that used to exist there. I considered changing the Wiki post I made about the 0-60 time for the GT3 that came in at 3 seconds flat per C&D. But, I left it alone since it is a documented article.
So, later in time and sure enough, someone changed my initial post to reflect a 0-60 time of the GT3 as being under 3.5 seconds. Now, here is the thing, C&D had done the test and they got a 3.0 or they wouldn't have published that time. I did a check with R&T and they have a 3.1 second time. So, I've updated the information because, I have no idea where the other guy came up with the under 3.5 second time that wasn't referenced with any citation. The Wiki site now reflects a GT3 0-60 claimed time of 3.1 seconds or less since there are two articles that support that as a matter of fact.
So, it begs the question, how fast is the GT3-RS? Porsche is likely conservative. You'd like to think it's faster than the GT3 but, perhaps, like it's top speed being less than the GT3 because of it's aero, it's also slightly slower to sixty? Wait, never mind. Wiki shows the GT3-RS takes 3.3 seconds to sixty but the Porsche site says 3.1 seconds. http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/911-gt3-rs/ Oh, wait again, that's a 0-62. Hrm, yeah, so, RS is quicker? Hrm, the press release in the footnote says 0-60 at 3.1. Eh, it's just all over the place.
Dan (isn't trolling future GT3-RS owners...but is rather defending GT3 statistics)
06-15-2015, 04:03 AM
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06-15-2015, 01:47 PM
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Magazine vendors have tested the 3 at 3.0 and 3.1 seconds. Do you have something, now, that demonstrates the RS is quicker? The best source I noted is from Porsche that reflects 3.1 seconds and that's likely conservative.
The point is, it's not ridiculous until proven so.
Dan (notes the RS is likely quicker but, hasn't seen anything to prove it)
06-15-2015, 02:52 PM
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on porsche's website
Gt3 0- 60 3.3
RS 0-60 3.1
We all know how conservative porsche is.
So I can see in the real test RS 0- 60 time will be around 2.9.
1/4 mile around 11.1 may be even 10.9
Porsche will make rs to be quicker than GT3 don't worry.
With the extra power, extra toque, wider tire, shorter gearing the rs will be quicker until the drag form the wing become effective to acceleration. But it won't happen until at very high speed.
Gt3 0- 60 3.3
RS 0-60 3.1
We all know how conservative porsche is.
So I can see in the real test RS 0- 60 time will be around 2.9.
1/4 mile around 11.1 may be even 10.9
Porsche will make rs to be quicker than GT3 don't worry.
With the extra power, extra toque, wider tire, shorter gearing the rs will be quicker until the drag form the wing become effective to acceleration. But it won't happen until at very high speed.
06-15-2015, 03:07 PM
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06-15-2015, 08:15 PM
#27
Three Wheelin'
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on porsche's website
Gt3 0- 60 3.3
RS 0-60 3.1
We all know how conservative porsche is.
So I can see in the real test RS 0- 60 time will be around 2.9.
1/4 mile around 11.1 may be even 10.9
Porsche will make rs to be quicker than GT3 don't worry.
With the extra power, extra toque, wider tire, shorter gearing the rs will be quicker until the drag form the wing become effective to acceleration. But it won't happen until at very high speed.
Gt3 0- 60 3.3
RS 0-60 3.1
We all know how conservative porsche is.
So I can see in the real test RS 0- 60 time will be around 2.9.
1/4 mile around 11.1 may be even 10.9
Porsche will make rs to be quicker than GT3 don't worry.
With the extra power, extra toque, wider tire, shorter gearing the rs will be quicker until the drag form the wing become effective to acceleration. But it won't happen until at very high speed.
Anyways, here is a nice review from Randy. He gushes over the GT3 RS. Who can blame him after Porsche set him up for a nice test run on a new track in Germany like they appear to have done.
06-15-2015, 09:15 PM
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I usually don't care about 0-60 times, they are generally the stuff of magazine racing. If anything, I usually like to look at a quarter mile time for purposes of comparison. But, I noticed that the 0-60 times for the GT3-RS at 3.3 seconds as reported by Wiki is slower than GT3 reported at 3.1 or 3.0 seconds as reported by Car and Driver and Road and Track.