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Old 06-14-2015, 06:38 AM
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Default Do all turbocharged cars lose power in hot and humid weather?

I live in Dubai where is gets extremely hot and humid in the summer. I was wondering if all turbocharged cars lose power in hot and humid weather. If yes, how much power do they generally lose? For example, how much power would a 991 Turbo S or a 997.2 GT2 RS lose in such weather?
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I used to have a turbo powered car (F10 M5) and although they claimed that there was no loss in hot weather, I could definitely feel a reduction of power in very hot weather. Don't know the figure, but the loss was large enough for me to feel. I believe that NA don't have as bad a loss at high heat.

On the other hand, a NA car loses more power at altitude than a turbocharged engine.
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All cars lose power in hot weather. Hot air is less dense than cool air, that effects N/A engines and turbo engines.

I will let someone more knowledgeable pick up the argument from here, but I think it could be the case that turbos lose less power relative to NA (on a proportional basis) because they can charge the engine up to a level of boost. NA engines are stuck with atmospheric pressure. This is why you see turbocharged piston aircraft engines having more usable service ceilings than non-turbo: they can pack in more air to make up a bit for lower air density.
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Of what I know turbos are better are altitude than NAs but NAs are better in hot climate that turbos.
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from personal experience with multiple turbo cars, i can say they definitely behave off in warm and humid weather with less power , and don't run as smooth
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In one word, yes. Highly saturated hot air affects all cars, but turbos more so, as they pump in even hotter recycled air. Bigger intercoolers!
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Originally Posted by DrJupeman
All cars lose power in hot weather. Hot air is less dense than cool air, that effects N/A engines and turbo engines. I will let someone more knowledgeable pick up the argument from here, but I think it could be the case that turbos lose less power relative to NA (on a proportional basis) because they can charge the engine up to a level of boost. NA engines are stuck with atmospheric pressure. This is why you see turbocharged piston aircraft engines having more usable service ceilings than non-turbo: they can pack in more air to make up a bit for lower air density.
I'd agree with this. I've noticed at 30c on the track ever the NA GT3 seems a tad more lethargic than when I've run it at the track at 12c. Density of air charge I suspect. The turbo cars I've owned seem noticeably punchier early in the morning when it's cool versus in the warm humid afternoon...
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IMHO, heat is the turbo greatest nemesis.
In short Yes, it does affect turbo car's power in hot & humid weather conditions. Cheers mate!
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For a turbo'd moter, there's a difference between running in hot humid weather and being actually "heat soaked".
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^heat soak no good.

to the OP if youre worried about it experiment w/ some race fuel.
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All engines will lose power as temp increases. PV=nRT with temp in deg R or deg K, n is moles. So a volume of air at 560 deg R (100F) has about 5% less moles of O2 compared to the same volume of air at 530 deg R (70F). If there is 5% less O2 the engine will burn 5% less fuel at any RPM, so on the order of 5% less power. That's pretty simplistic and other factors involved but that's a primary effect. 5% doesn't sound like that much but you can definitely feel it especially on track.



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