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Old 06-09-2015, 07:41 PM
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Default 2015 porsche turbo s vs 2015 gt3

check out this link. specifically the end where they concourse track the turbo S and it crushes the time for the Gt3 and speciale!


I always thought that on a straightway the turbo wins but concourse goes to the gt3 with all of its "racing", weight saving" features but apparently that is not the case.

So that said what is the advantage of the GT3 short of the fact that it is naturally aspirated if it is both slower in the straightway and concourse track?? Im pretty sure the turbo S crushes the the 2015 gt3 RS as well.

fyi i have a gt3 and scud.

looking forward to anyones insights!
Old 06-09-2015, 07:48 PM
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Believe it still comes down to enjoyment, thrill to drive, NA delivery vs Turbo. The feel of a lighter car, the wear on the brakes and tires, less fading lap after lap and consistency.

There are cars faster than a GT3 for less money. Z06 can be, especially with some mods, viper, especially the ACR viper. But most don't buy the GT3 for plain old bragging rights.

I know plenty of 996TT at my track that have a few mods and Hoosier and rape the Gt3s. It's just a different approach
Old 06-09-2015, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nycjwi
check out this link. specifically the end where they concourse track the turbo S and it crushes the time for the Gt3 and speciale!

Porsche 911 Turbo S | evo LEADERBOARD - YouTube

I always thought that on a straightway the turbo wins but concourse goes to the gt3 with all of its "racing", weight saving" features but apparently that is not the case.

So that said what is the advantage of the GT3 short of the fact that it is naturally aspirated if it is both slower in the straightway and concourse track?? Im pretty sure the turbo S crushes the the 2015 gt3 RS as well.

fyi i have a gt3 and scud.

looking forward to anyones insights!
Impressive car, no doubt; thanks for posting the link. But there are no times given in the vid for the GT3 on this course to back up your conclusion that the GT3 was "crushed". At the end, the narrator says that he "suspects" the GT3 and perhaps even RS will have a tough time beating the time for the TTS, but until those cars are tested they will have to wait. You probably should too....
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Yes but the speciale generally outperforms the Gt3 and the turbo crushed the Speciale!

if this is the case why can't porsche indulge us with a turbo s gt3 to crush them all, and i'm not talking about the 918 for 1 million bucks!
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They did. Gt2rs.
Old 06-09-2015, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nycjwi
Yes but the speciale generally outperforms the Gt3 and the turbo crushed the Speciale!

if this is the case why can't porsche indulge us with a turbo s gt3 to crush them all, and i'm not talking about the 918 for 1 million bucks!
Turbo charged version of the gt3 is the Gt2 and rumors are that Porsche will be releasing a new gt2 within the next few years.

The Turbo S is a total freak of nature. I still prefer the feel and even the sound of the gt3 but if it's speed you're looking for, turbo s is where to go. IMO you have to be a very skilled driver to get the most out of the Gt3 on the track, Turbo S, albeit a fuller car, always seemed easier to drive fast
Old 06-09-2015, 09:23 PM
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In the AutoCar track comparison of the Speciale, 650s and GT3 (
) the GT3 trailed the Speciale by 1.20 seconds around Castle Comb. The Turbo S was .6 faster than the Speciale in this comparison at Anglesey, so I think its safe to say that the Turbo S will best the GT3 in terms of all out performance. That said, the look, feel, sound and emotion of the Turbo S cannot be compared to the GT3 (IMHO of course). Different cars with different purposes. In addition, the average Turbo S is probably $40 - 50K more than a GT3. So, the GT3 still wins! :-)
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I have both. GT3 on track any day.
Old 06-09-2015, 09:46 PM
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Have had the 997 Turbo and 996 turbo S...GREAT cars BUT prefer the GT3 any day - a much better drivers car.
Old 06-09-2015, 10:26 PM
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What makes a GT3 special can't be found on a specification sheet.

Turbo S is faster in nearly every scenario.
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can almost understand the turbo s being faster than the gt3... what with almost 90 more hp...

but it would be a bit mind boggling if it turns out to be even quicker than the gt3rs as well.... not to mention embarrassing, for the rs owner?
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When we were at the Porsche experience center, I don't recall a single person saying they preferred the Turbo S, including all the instructors.
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Besides the TTS is four wheel drive. That in of itself is a huge advantage. The package is made to go fast, just not as visceral.
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Someone brought a brand new Turbo S to a DE at my local track this past weekend. It's really a striking car. Sounds like a giant vacuum cleaner when accelerating down the straight. Incredible acceleration. I'd still take a GT3 for driving enjoyment, but I can see the appeal of monster torque and the broad range of usability offered by the Turbo.
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Current Turbos are wicked fast but I have zero interest them. Country club cars vs Motorsports pedigree cars. Every time I see one it's navy blue with a tan interior. Yuck. IMO.

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