Reference Guide to PTS
#1366
Apologies for another repost, but this is quite interesting from the same thread today:
BTW, Eduardo, I'm sure no one is going to be counting on PTS for the 911R, but it was very interesting to hear the perspective and experience of the earlier poster. I do hope it is correct however.
Hi, Targa75,
Really great specs for your Spyder, indeed ! I didn't know you could do all this via the Porsche Exclusive dept.
BTW, I'm the French 'Viper Green' Spyderman. Mine is supposed to be delivered by mid-February 2016. I hope we'll have the chance to meet each other some day (I'm based in the Paris area too...).
Re. the 991 R, I've got some more details from my dealer: around 30 units will be allocated for the French market. As always, 918 Spyder owners get the priority to book one, then the Porsche racing team owners, and then more 'normal' customers. According to my dealer, basically anybody can get one, but a 'ranking' of the customers already owning interesting Porsche models will be made, and the 991 R will then be allocated accordingly... 10-15 units should be available for these 'normal' customers in France. I guess the same principle for 991 R allocations will be used in other markets, including NA.
Sportivement,
Thomas
Really great specs for your Spyder, indeed ! I didn't know you could do all this via the Porsche Exclusive dept.
BTW, I'm the French 'Viper Green' Spyderman. Mine is supposed to be delivered by mid-February 2016. I hope we'll have the chance to meet each other some day (I'm based in the Paris area too...).
Re. the 991 R, I've got some more details from my dealer: around 30 units will be allocated for the French market. As always, 918 Spyder owners get the priority to book one, then the Porsche racing team owners, and then more 'normal' customers. According to my dealer, basically anybody can get one, but a 'ranking' of the customers already owning interesting Porsche models will be made, and the 991 R will then be allocated accordingly... 10-15 units should be available for these 'normal' customers in France. I guess the same principle for 991 R allocations will be used in other markets, including NA.
Sportivement,
Thomas
#1367
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
correct, Daniel. Your new French friend Targa 75
is indeed counting on PTS for the 991 R. In his
own words:
that all that any of you need to do to get anything you
want on your next 'custom order' Porsche is to follow
his simple advice (see below), which you have rather
enthusiastically reposted in this thread, so you are
adding credibility to it:
As for the PTS of the 991 R I do not have any specific
information but with Porsche you must know that almost
everything is possible. You just need to ask to the right
person. If you have the chance to order a R or any car
and you want something really specific I can only advise
you to book directly an appointment with one of the
exclusive advisor at the factory, jump in a plane and
buid your car directly with them. Dealerships do not
have the relevant training and infos...Almost everything
is possible if you are willing to pay and wait..
information but with Porsche you must know that almost
everything is possible. You just need to ask to the right
person. If you have the chance to order a R or any car
and you want something really specific I can only advise
you to book directly an appointment with one of the
exclusive advisor at the factory, jump in a plane and
buid your car directly with them. Dealerships do not
have the relevant training and infos...Almost everything
is possible if you are willing to pay and wait..
911R and thinks/knows anything is possible...only if you
get on a plane & go see Dominic Mayer in Zuffenhausen!
Frankly, I think this kind of 'counsel' is somewhat naive &
a bit irresponsible. It sets up expectations that ultimately
will not be met by either 'Porsche Exclusive' or the folks
that decide on PTS at PAG. But everyone here (hopefully)
is an intelligent adult. And each of you can judge for
yourselves what counsel is best to follow.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
#1368
Sorry, I only intended to share the posts for those who might not have caught the thread to read for themselves. If the information is not accurate, I apologize for disseminating it further.
#1370
Not seen pics of any Green cars so far.
#1371
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
Did you say 'Green' cars?....
#1372
Thanks Eduardo, a nice new PTS 911 sounds practically perfect for 2016!! Maybe the PTS fairy (or perhaps a kind friend) will find an extra one lying around for me, maybe even in 911R guise!
Best to all for the new year! May you be blessed with health and happiness, and may all your wildest automotive wishes come true in 2016!!
Best to all for the new year! May you be blessed with health and happiness, and may all your wildest automotive wishes come true in 2016!!
#1373
Eduardo
Thank you so much, a great start to 2016
Thank you so much, a great start to 2016
#1376
Rennlist Member
#1380
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
What metallic grey color was this PTS 2011 gt3 RS?
This is something I posted on the gt4 forum which might be of
interest to some of you on this forum.
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*******************************
Yes, there is a bit of mystery surrounding the color of this car! Here is that
exact same .2 997 gt3 RS in the outdoor in front of Paul Miller's dealership
back it it's day. The natural light is better than the OP's interior shots, but
the day was overcast & 'dark':
***
There were four metallic greys popular at the time which had been used by
Porsche as regular offerings for various model years in that general period -
'Slate Grey Metallic', 'Meteor Grey Metallic', 'Atlas Grey Metallic' and 'Seal
Grey Metallic'.
*
Here is 'Slate Grey Metallic':
*
Here is 'Meteor Grey Metallic':
*
Here is 'Atlas Grey Metallic':
*
Here is 'Seal Grey Metallic':
***
The RS registry is reporting this PTS '11 gt3 RS as 'GT Silver', which is
clearly the wrong information. The dealer (Paul Miller), who custom
ordered this car on spec, referred to the color in their advertising of
the period (May/2011) as 'Slate Grey'. From recollection, Paul Miller
is not known for being a 'daring' dealership that orders unusual or
historic/vintage PTS colors for spec. As a matter of fact, they seldom
order any PTS on spec! So I think they chose a relatively safe 'grey'
metallic color from Porsche for the era, which was popular in its day,
although one that was not available on the gt3 RS at the time...except
via PTS.
And since Paul Miller ordered this gt3 RS & identified it as 'Slate Grey'
in their ads, I will give them the benefit of the doubt & say that this
color indeed was as they reported it: 'Slate Grey' but add ...'Metallic'.
As Daniel correctly pointed out to us, this 'Slate Metallic' color (code 23F)
is not currently approved for the 991/981.
My dos centavos, for what it's worth.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
interest to some of you on this forum.
***
I was trying to replicate the look of this PTS 997 GT3-RS that literally stopped me in my tracks back in 2011:
_LND9756 by Peter Moy, on Flickr
_LND9761 by Peter Moy, on Flickr
_LND9766 by Peter Moy, on Flickr
_LND9751 by Peter Moy, on Flickr
I believe this color is Slate Grey but I'm not 100% sure. Sadly this car is no more. It was lost in the flooding after Superstorm Sandy in 2012.
_LND9756 by Peter Moy, on Flickr
_LND9761 by Peter Moy, on Flickr
_LND9766 by Peter Moy, on Flickr
_LND9751 by Peter Moy, on Flickr
I believe this color is Slate Grey but I'm not 100% sure. Sadly this car is no more. It was lost in the flooding after Superstorm Sandy in 2012.
Excellent points. I just checked (based on the VIN) and it is a metallic colour
-- so clearly it cannot be grey black. (7A1 is solid, not metallic. BTW, it also
cannot be the usual (solid) Slate grey in either of its current incarnations
(615 or Y97).)
My next guess then: slate metallic. ()
Sadly, requested but rejected for 991 and 981 so impossible to reproduce again, at least for this generation of 9x1 cars.
-- so clearly it cannot be grey black. (7A1 is solid, not metallic. BTW, it also
cannot be the usual (solid) Slate grey in either of its current incarnations
(615 or Y97).)
My next guess then: slate metallic. ()
Sadly, requested but rejected for 991 and 981 so impossible to reproduce again, at least for this generation of 9x1 cars.
Yes, there is a bit of mystery surrounding the color of this car! Here is that
exact same .2 997 gt3 RS in the outdoor in front of Paul Miller's dealership
back it it's day. The natural light is better than the OP's interior shots, but
the day was overcast & 'dark':
***
There were four metallic greys popular at the time which had been used by
Porsche as regular offerings for various model years in that general period -
'Slate Grey Metallic', 'Meteor Grey Metallic', 'Atlas Grey Metallic' and 'Seal
Grey Metallic'.
*
Here is 'Slate Grey Metallic':
*
Here is 'Meteor Grey Metallic':
*
Here is 'Atlas Grey Metallic':
*
Here is 'Seal Grey Metallic':
***
The RS registry is reporting this PTS '11 gt3 RS as 'GT Silver', which is
clearly the wrong information. The dealer (Paul Miller), who custom
ordered this car on spec, referred to the color in their advertising of
the period (May/2011) as 'Slate Grey'. From recollection, Paul Miller
is not known for being a 'daring' dealership that orders unusual or
historic/vintage PTS colors for spec. As a matter of fact, they seldom
order any PTS on spec! So I think they chose a relatively safe 'grey'
metallic color from Porsche for the era, which was popular in its day,
although one that was not available on the gt3 RS at the time...except
via PTS.
And since Paul Miller ordered this gt3 RS & identified it as 'Slate Grey'
in their ads, I will give them the benefit of the doubt & say that this
color indeed was as they reported it: 'Slate Grey' but add ...'Metallic'.
As Daniel correctly pointed out to us, this 'Slate Metallic' color (code 23F)
is not currently approved for the 991/981.
My dos centavos, for what it's worth.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel