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Old 05-24-2015, 04:17 AM
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The baseline of GT3 have been always
the Carrera 2S chassis engine tuned for her

Now that the 991.2 Carrera 2S engine goes to Turbo
the next GT3 is not an easy call but for sure will stay NATURE
so 2 release of the same engine available (3.8 or 4.0)

the only options to keep the cost for .2GT3 under current .1 RS are

1 Keep current .1 GT3 3.8 engine pdk etc. and improve here and there
with some marketing carbon and maybe suspensions just to show some effort (basically a facelift) "close to 0 improvment"

2 Put the RS 4.0 but 9000 RPM plus minor facelift keep the rest as today and no carbon no weight reduction "5% improvement"

3 Keep all as it is today 3.8 engine etc. (it s all very good) plus a minor facelift*
AND plus (a dream of mine ) a completely
redesigned pdk s = two 3rd to half the current 116 kg heavy weight as anticipation of 992 pdk*
Goals Save a lot of weight , Zero investment because from 992 R&D budget with the benefit to provide a testing baseline for upcoming 992,
Faster than current GT3/RS so well received as evolution

Options 1 and 2 are very good for current GT3 market as changes are just cosmetic (0 to 5% increase of performance)

Option 3 is highly improbable because Porsche is not anymore*
visionary but a VW company? ( A challenge here because they listen...)

What's your view?

P.S Option 4 The nightmare : .2 GT3 with 991.1 7 speed PDK derived manual trasmission...

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Old 05-24-2015, 07:57 AM
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Option 5: No 991.2 GT3, returns in 992 as a Hybrid
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The RS will not go to 9k rpm due to unnecessary increased piston speed. It lessens reliability with no performance benefit. That would be like increasing the gt3's red line over 9k just because. As it is 8800 RS and 9000 GT3 red lines have same piston speed. Both make peak hp at 8250 rpms.

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An optional MT.
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
Option 5: No 991.2 GT3, returns in 992 as a Hybrid
then i ll start buying whichever 991.1 GT3 available on the market
Old 05-24-2015, 08:28 PM
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#2 is my strong guess. Gotta have more HP than the current to really be a .2 otherwise no different at all. Definitely won't be weight reduction
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Weight reduction with CF wheels and manual tranny. It would sell out fast
Old 05-24-2015, 09:03 PM
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all they have to do is replace the escalating with .2 on it and more deviating stitching. it will ALL sell out. mark my words

asking as Econ holds
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1-Slight weight reduction with some of the carbon fiber body panels like the RS.
2-same engine tweaked to produce 490hp.
3-manual option.

991.2 GT3 will sell out because its .2 and manual option.

Don't think the GT3 is getting the 4.0L engine until the 992 GT3, but I hope to be wrong.
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Originally Posted by fxz
The baseline of GT3 have been always
the Carrera 2S chassis engine tuned for her
The C2S has never had the watercooled Mezger. ...and the current engines aren't very close either. Not sure where you're getting your information.
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Originally Posted by destaccado
...and the current engines aren't very close either.
Looks like the 9A1 will be used in the GT3R............... You have about a zillion posts where you can admit that your love of the Metzger has led you down a bias slant to your posts........
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Originally Posted by MileHigh911
Looks like the 9A1 will be used in the GT3R............... You have about a zillion posts where you can admit that your love of the Metzger has led you down a bias slant to your posts........
I may be wrong, but believe he was referring to the the fact that the 9A1 C2(S) engine does not share much with the GT3R either. He has acknowledged that the GT3/RS 9A1 engines will be used in the race car. The GT3 9A1 shares little with the C2 9A1. Basic architecture, but that's about it. Lot to love about the iconic Mezger; hopefully the 9A1 will deliver.
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Originally Posted by 911dev
I may be wrong, but believe he was referring to the the fact that the 9A1 C2(S) engine does not share much with the GT3R either. He has acknowledged that the GT3/RS 9A1 engines will be used in the race car. The GT3 9A1 shares little with the C2 9A1. Basic architecture, but that's about it. Lot to love about the iconic Mezger; hopefully the 9A1 will deliver.


the link between the marketing so called Mezger 997 and its GT3
like the link we have between a 9A1 991 CxS and a 991 GT3 is there very visible
and so forth to the R versions

991.2 CxS being all Turbos will have much less THAN TODAY to share with .2 GT3 /RS

.2 GT3/RS has to stay NA for a while thus current 3.8 /4.0 or if god bless either 4.2L
point is where the budget will go ? Weight , PDK, nothing ? Any wish?

differently than some RL trolls After all Porsche listen to their Customers isn t it ?

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Old 05-25-2015, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mooty
all they have to do is replace the escalating with .2 on it and more deviating stitching. it will ALL sell out. mark my words

asking as Econ holds
And if deviated stitching won't do it just add PTS nipples and they will all be gone in a heartbeat.
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They need to have a lit doorsill / glow in the dark paint package.
They couldn't build enough of them...


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