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Old 06-24-2015, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by needmoregarage View Post
I had the chance to drive a 458 on track quite a bit (a couple different tracks) and it was a fantastic car - an amazing, precision tool designed for the job. If anything - I found it a bit twitchy in race mode. I had trouble being smooth with the throttle - the slightest movement of my foot translated, and it took quite awhile to get used to a throttle THAT sensitive. I don't know if they are all like that - but I wasn't the only one who commented on how incredibly sensitive it was. It was also nimble, laser precise, and torquey in a good way! Lots of fun to drive
That was the first thing I noticed when I drove my GT3 2.5 hours to the dealer to trade in for the 458. Slogging around town, the slightest lift and your body lurche's forward, to much correction with hitting the gas and your body lurches' back and then all the sudden the car is bucking like a horse. The prancing horse analogy fits the car well in that regard. It took some practice to be smooth on the throttle.
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Old 06-24-2015, 05:50 PM
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or this
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Turbo Ferrari ? No thanks.
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rockitman View Post
Turbo Ferrari ? No thanks.
I got in line for one, I'm told it will be about 2 years - I figure at that point it will be a Turbo Ferrari or a Turbo/Hybrid Porsche.
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:51 PM
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I got in line for one, I'm told it will be about 2 years - I figure at that point it will be a Turbo Ferrari or a Turbo/Hybrid Porsche.
The pic above in black looks the best I have seen. It will be a monster performance wise while not quite as good sound or as sensitive throttle response of the 458. If I went hybrid...918 or LaFerrari....Build #1 up on eBay for 5 mill....I like black on the 458, 488 and LaFerrari better. Sacrilege I know. LaFerrari will never happen for me...a man must know his limits.
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Originally Posted by -eztrader- View Post
easy decision...RS drive it for a while....if you don't love it - can sell easily and choose from unlimited supply of 458--some of which are very old and depreciating quickly
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Old 06-25-2015, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rockitman View Post
Turbo Ferrari ? No thanks.
But it just looks so evil...

Seriously, not a fan of turbo either but at least they seem to be doing all they can to make it feel NA. Trick will be a rising torque curve instead of the standard plateau from 1,500rpm that most turbo lumps seem to generate. They talk about the concept but so far I've yet to see a dyno chart from them........

Doesn't matter because I'll never own one unless I move to Miami or SoCal.
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Harris was frothing at the mouth over the performance envelope of the 488, especially the acceleration. I'm not a fan of the concept (turbo Ferrari), but it seems to be a modern day F40, but much faster. I'm guessing upper 130's 1/4 mile trap speed with huge braking and grip. It'll be a cool car for sure and it really doesn't sound dramatically different than the 458 from the videos I've heard.

Oh OP, GT3 RS is a NO BRAINER. Get the car at MSRP play with it for a year or 3 and sell it for what you paid for it, possibly more depending on miles/market, etc. Then you can get a clean 458 or even a year old 488 if you so choose.
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Quikag View Post
Harris was frothing at the mouth over the performance envelope of the 488, especially the acceleration. I'm not a fan of the concept (turbo Ferrari), but it seems to be a modern day F40, but much faster.
It seems nothing like a modern day F40. The F40 was shockingly devoid of modern conveniences and comforts even by late 80s/early 90s standards. With all of the electronic wizardry, the 488 seems the exact opposite of the F40 (other than having two IHIs blowing into a Ferrari V8).
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:32 AM
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The 458 is a great car but it was mass produced and there are tons out there - people are lining up to sell them on ebay. Prices will continue to drop. You cannot get a 991GT3 RS (very easily). it will be a limited run and NA too. I'd jump at the opportunity to get an RS - you can drive it for a year and likely not lose any $$. Then switch to a 458 at $20K less than what you'd pay today
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Old 06-25-2015, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee View Post
It seems nothing like a modern day F40. The F40 was shockingly devoid of modern conveniences and comforts even by late 80s/early 90s standards. With all of the electronic wizardry, the 488 seems the exact opposite of the F40 (other than having two IHIs blowing into a Ferrari V8).
Touche. I was specifically referencing the power plant (twin turbo Ferrari V8). They are obviously very different. The 488 is a comfy, luxury car compared to the F40.
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The 458 is a great car but it was mass produced and there are tons out there - people are lining up to sell them on ebay. Prices will continue to drop. You cannot get a 991GT3 RS (very easily). it will be a limited run and NA too. I'd jump at the opportunity to get an RS - you can drive it for a year and likely not lose any $$. Then switch to a 458 at $20K less than what you'd pay today
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Money wise, if you can get an RS at MSRP, it will be a better investment in the short run, meaning 6 to 12 months. In 10 years, the 458 will be worth a lot more than the RS because it will be the last naturally aspirated Ferrari V8, and a great engine at that, and its a Ferrari, and probably the best Ferrari V8 car ever. The RS in 10 years will just be supplanted by a newer RS, still with PDK, but probably with a turbocharged or hybrid engine like everyone else. The market is moving toward "old school". Look at the prices of all the air-cooled 911's, 997 GT3's (mostly because of the manual transmission), and any older Ferrari's.

Car wise, the 458 is a much more fun drive on the streets IMO.
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Old 07-07-2015, 02:40 PM
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Maybe the 991RS will be the last N/A as well.
Cant go wrong either way long term...
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Old 07-07-2015, 03:26 PM
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When do you think we hit bottom on the 458 used car pricing? A year or two after the 488 has been released? If I can't get an RS then I might just pick up a used 458, especially if it's trading the high $100s.
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