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Boxster Spyder Porsche misses the mark

Old 04-09-2015, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by aussie jimmy
agree 1000%
very well said.
the design is indeed, an utter failure.
very lame.
the 987.2 gave me an instant hit from the first pics.
this one does absolutely nothing for me.
the gts is better car for that compromised job.
+1. they really had a great spyder. The new one does not do it for me. GTS would be my pick too, if I was in the market for another Boxster. I commend Arena-RTR for sharing his honest opinion. Mark
Old 04-09-2015, 11:22 PM
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The brakes seem to be the same as the 991 S. I have one of those and track it pretty hard, brakes are fantastic with motul and PFC11s. I run consistently with 997 GT3s in white and red at PCA events. The lighter Boxster should have no issues imo, if the TC is turned off and proper pads are used. I tracked my Cayman S extensively and a lot of my experience is documented on planet 9, long story short, that's not the weakness of the 987.
Old 04-10-2015, 11:07 AM
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Just Saw the Spyder. well, its kinda boring. The lack of stripes and/coloring would help? How about some cool looking louvers over the deck lid???
Old 04-10-2015, 11:46 AM
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If anyone is interested in an immaculate well equipped White Gen 1 Spyder with 6000 miles, let me know. I am selling mine as I was lucky enough to get an RS allocation. I can give more details through email.
Old 04-10-2015, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SDGT3
If anyone is interested in an immaculate well equipped White Gen 1 Spyder with 6000 miles, let me know. I am selling mine as I was lucky enough to get an RS allocation. I can give more details through email.
Yes details please
Where t email you ?
Old 04-10-2015, 11:59 AM
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Agree that the Boxster GTS hits most buttons when compared with the new Spyder.
Old 04-10-2015, 01:14 PM
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JUPJAI just sent a PM with contact details

Here are build details


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2011 Porsche Boxster Spyder

Division: PCNA VIN:
WP0CB2A85BS745373
Prod Month: 04/2010 Commission #:
713510
Year: 2011 Model:
Boxster Spyder
Warranty Start: May 26, 2010



Option Description
Price

BASE Boxster Spyder
61,200.00
342 Heated Seats (Front)
510.00
490 Sound Package Plus
700.00
573 Automatic Climate Control
1,760.00
619 Bluetooth(R)

0.00
639 Sport Chrono Pkg W/Out PCM
960.00
695 CDR-30 Audio System
0.00
810 Floor Mats
0.00

870 Universal Audio Interface
0.00

AT Black Full Leather Interior
2,385.00
B4 Carrara White
0.00

HNL Fabric Door Opening Loop
0.00

P74 Bi-Xenon? w/ Dynam Corner Sys
1,560.00
P77 Sport Seats in Leather
0.00
ROOF Manual Two Panel Roof
0.00

V9 Soft Top in Black

0.00
XCZ Sport Shifter
765.00

XD9 Rims and Caps - Exterior Color
1,490.00
XLF Sport Exhaust System
2,500.00
XMK Roll Bar Painted Exterior Clr
535.00
XSC Porsche Crest Emboss Headrest
285.00
Total Options
13,450.00

Total Charges
950.00

Total Order
75,600.
Old 04-12-2015, 12:56 AM
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Saw it in person in NY. Loved it....more than I thought. Clearly an integrated approach in design.
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Flew to NY from west coast to see it actually. Was so impressed then and there decided I had to have one. The stance, accents, depth of the car can't be transferred in photo or video. I liked the photo-videos, loved in person. Having own(ed) every version of RS I get the desire for something more from the Spyder in terms of brakes, suspension, power. Less is sometimes more. The various RS cars over the years could have had more power, brakes, suspension but didn't yet somehow each version retains a brilliance decades later giving nothing away. I'll reserve my final comments once I drive one, on paper the car makes few concessions. It's at 07/08 Gt3 power to weight, still a fast car today. Brakes and suspension more than adequate for its high performance street open chassis. Certainly a performance leap over the first version in an integrated package. The old car was no slouch ... In fact a freind leaving two in my care woke me up to a car I'd have otherwise never given a second look.
Old 04-12-2015, 02:52 AM
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the Spyder got the 3.8L, finally. Which is a big deal in my books.

It is disappointing that it didnt gt all the GT4 stuff... But it didnt really need it for the intended buyer..
It also keeps the GT4 in a leaque of its own which kinda makes sense.

The top could have been cooler though... they cheaped out on the side glass and the ability to tonneau the top.
Old 04-12-2015, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SmokinGTS
hf1 Take a look over on Planet 9 the Boxster Cayman forum and read about all the guys frying their brakes and Calipers. Most track guys have upgraded rotor and caliper sizes and installed GT3 master cylinders. I wore out a set of pads in three track days on my Boxster S. Orthojoe can attest to this on his Boxster Spyder.
How experienced of a driver are you? I am fairly experienced, drive a 986S, mostly at Sebring where brakes get a workout, and have never worn a set of pads in as little as 3 days. I presume you are doing 3 typical DE days where there may be 2-3 hours/day track time? I will say that since spending thousands of $'s on pro coaching over the past few years I am on the brakes way less than previously. That's why I ask how experienced of a driver you are.
Old 04-12-2015, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SmokinGTS
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Take a look over on Planet 9 the Boxster Cayman forum and read about all the guys frying their brakes and Calipers. Most track guys have upgraded rotor and caliper sizes and installed GT3 master cylinders. I wore out a set of pads in three track days on my Boxster S. Orthojoe can attest to this on his Boxster Spyder.
Originally Posted by hf1
May be. Just sharing my experience with a bone stock (non PASM) Boxster S on nt01s and with track pads running in top quartile of Black (sub-instructor) run group of one of fastests PCA regions (CT Valley Region) thick with GT3's and dedicated race cars. (So not pussyfooting around.) Then again, I always try to use brakes as little as possible and I drive flat-out!

This was years ago now so memory is not best but I probably could squeeze out no less than ten track days on stock rotors and Pagid yellows with my Boxster. More with cheaper hole-less rotors. No fading or overheating issues either. I guess everyone's mileage DOES vary.
My general observations:

1) Boxster Spyder is not designed as a track car. They didn't always used to so we made due, but now Porsche actually has offerings where they are considering track use. The Boxster Spyder is not one of them.

2) That said, I suspect the Boxster Spyder's brakes are just fine for track use. I know this kind of commentary sounds like a "mine is bigger than yours", but driver ability has a huge impact on brakes. The Planet 9 guys need to be judged on ability (not just experience, btw). I am multitudes faster now than I was with even 10 years track experience (now have ~22 years) and the difference in brake abuse over time vs. lap time correlates: the lower the lap time, the less abuse. This holds true for every car I've tracked and raced, from 914 and Boxster to 962. Similarly, just being freed from the lower run groups at a DE makes a huge difference.

3) Bigger isn't always better.

At any rate, I'm pretty confident Porsche gave the car more than enough brake for its intended purpose, and probably more than enough for speedy track use, even though it isn't a track car.
Old 04-14-2015, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DrJupeman
My general observations:

2) That said, I suspect the Boxster Spyder's brakes are just fine for track use. I know this kind of commentary sounds like a "mine is bigger than yours", but driver ability has a huge impact on brakes. The Planet 9 guys need to be judged on ability (not just experience, btw). I am multitudes faster now than I was with even 10 years track experience (now have ~22 years) and the difference in brake abuse over time vs. lap time correlates: the lower the lap time, the less abuse. This holds true for every car I've tracked and raced, from 914 and Boxster to 962. Similarly, just being freed from the lower run groups at a DE makes a huge difference.

3) Bigger isn't always better.

At any rate, I'm pretty confident Porsche gave the car more than enough brake for its intended purpose, and probably more than enough for speedy track use, even though it isn't a track car.
I'm learning all this right now, great info
Old 04-15-2015, 09:27 AM
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I'm with Charlie (DrJupeman) on this. The Boxster line was never meant to be a track car. We USE it as a track car, but that is NOT what Porsche intended. That's part why they built the Cayman. IMO, the Boxster was built to be a fun, twisty road driving roadster, NOT a track car. The Spyder is the ultimate expression of that.

Just like you would buy a 911 coupe over a cab if you were track focused, you should buy a Cayman over a Boxster if your track focused.

Not EVERY model variation is built specifically with track use in mind.
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