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Let's not kid ourselves....they can still bump production slightly from original plan and the car can still be considered "limited". It only requires them to leave a few people at end of line still waiting for the hype to continue to drive demand. These cars cost a s***load to manufacturer with high supplier costs (some limited use parts) , new manufacturing technique to bond the different materials in roof together, etc etc. They want to produce as many as they can to recover up front costs and that comes through as much volume as they can reasonably do without saturation of marketplace or at least the "perception" of saturation.
I've always believed Porsche will up allocations...question is by how many. Competition/options are coming in monthly. Heck the new McLaren Sports Series 570S sub-$200k is going straight after Porsche pocketbooks. And there are many more of those brands entering that $200k range out there. Then again I think PP (dealer) will pretty much say anything to keep a customer hanging on.
Re the 570S, I was just at a confidential preview in NYC of the car before the car is being launched at the NY Auto Show. The design was impressive – very sexy car – performance stats were solid (562 bhp and 0-60 in 3.1). However, while not official until next week, talk at this small event (maybe 75 people or so) was that it would be more in the $225k-$250k range. So for the money, we're still getting a LOT more car for the dollar with Porsches (GT3, GT3RS or Turbos).
Sorry I don't have photos. They made each of us check our phones before going into the event.
Let's not kid ourselves....they can still bump production slightly from original plan and the car can still be considered "limited". It only requires them to leave a few people at end of line still waiting for the hype to continue to drive demand. These cars cost a s***load to manufacturer with high supplier costs (some limited use parts) , new manufacturing technique to bond the different materials in roof together, etc etc. They want to produce as many as they can to recover up front costs and that comes through as much volume as they can reasonably do without saturation of marketplace or at least the "perception" of saturation.
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There is only one way they can make this car not appear "limited." That's if they do something that results in this:
Let's not kid ourselves....they can still bump production slightly from original plan and the car can still be considered "limited". It only requires them to leave a few people at end of line still waiting for the hype to continue to drive demand. These cars cost a s***load to manufacturer with high supplier costs (some limited use parts) , new manufacturing technique to bond the different materials in roof together, etc etc. They want to produce as many as they can to recover up front costs and that comes through as much volume as they can reasonably do without saturation of marketplace or at least the "perception" of saturation.
For one of the products my company launched a couple years back (invite only, initially), we intentionally throttled invites to make it appear things were hotter than they were. And, in turn, that made things as "hot" as we wanted them to be with respect to public perception. Self-fulfilling, if you will.
Car manufacturers do this every single time. They use words quite effectively, like:
"All allocations have been spoken for!"
Despite the fact that not all allocations exist in the system yet, and thus aren't handed out to dealers yet. But, the statement above is true, all allocations in the system have been spoken for. Either customers have them, or dealer principals grab them (because they plan to ask $XX thousand over MSRP for them -- *cough* Rusnak, McKenna, Beverly Hills, Champion).
PCNA / PAG even had dealer principals grab the last handful of 918 Spyder allocations so they could issue a press release stating that the "car is sold out!!!"
I think soon we will see GT3s are at a higher asking price than Turbos.
Not exactly the point I was trying to make. But yes, it's entirely possible.
Turbo S's often sell at a steep discount to list price. I'd definitely expect GT3's to sell at health prices relative to their original MSRP.
Porsche has always flooded the market with Turbo's / Turbo S's, it seems. I absolutely love the car. But the depreciation because of that is painfully steep (and lease residuals reflect that, so it's always painful to convince myself to get one).
I suspect its a bit tougher to get an allocation if you do not have a good relationship with a dealer you trust.
Do you get your car serviced there? Do you do do after warranty? Have you been a repeat customer?
My sense is that its a bit more than putting down a deposit, but I am not privy to the inner workings of the allocation decision.
I am sure they will do a second allocation, but they have lost a year basically with the GT3 issues, and are going into the 991.2 in September. Doubtless they will do the RS production simultaneously, and I would not be surprised if there were no RS.2 for the 991, like the 996RS.
By 2016 with all of the normal cars going turbo, and getting more powerful, it is going to be tougher to get a performance delta with the NA cars that would justify a steep premium, so my (absolutely not from any insider info) guess is no NA RS.2/
I suspect its a bit tougher to get an allocation if you do not have a good relationship with a dealer you trust.
Do you get your car serviced there? Do you do do after warranty? Have you been a repeat customer?
My sense is that its a bit more than putting down a deposit, but I am not privy to the inner workings of the allocation decision.
Every dealer is going to be different. And, not only that, but it'll also depend on whom you're working with at the dealer, and their relationship with their GSM, their GM, etc.
03-30-2015, 08:03 PM
