C&D AP Article - More Good Stuff on the Way
03-12-2015, 10:45 AM
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it's all good, but the reality soon will be the tightening of emissions laws and ultimately, stricter compliance.
interesting times as we transition.
porsche will have to build a lot more turbos or electrics for every naturally aspirated gt-grade manual built.
interesting times as we transition.
porsche will have to build a lot more turbos or electrics for every naturally aspirated gt-grade manual built.
03-12-2015, 11:12 AM
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^ agree w/ you jimmy as I see the regulatory noose getting tighter. And while I take AP's comments at face value, the constant advancement of turbos, kers or whatever does give me some doubt. Who knows what the future holds for these technologies. Maybe in the future the turbo lag will be thing of the past? Apparently the new Ferrari's turbo lag has been greatly reduced.
03-12-2015, 11:22 AM
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NO PDK S = NO MONEY
03-12-2015, 11:56 AM
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I take AP's interviews with a grain of salt. Do not get me wrong; very knowledgeable and bright guy but he likes to run his mouth. Lets hope nothing goes wrong with the RS because then you will not hear from him for another 18 months like on the GT3. When the going gets tough he flees
03-12-2015, 01:04 PM
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Hopefully he sticks to this and give gt3 and RS customers a trans choice.
I do have a strange feeling we will see boxtser and pana Gt cars before we see gt3 with proper 3 pedals.
I do have a strange feeling we will see boxtser and pana Gt cars before we see gt3 with proper 3 pedals.
03-12-2015, 01:11 PM
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All he said was "maybe" they'll offer a choice - seems pretty easy to stick to a maybe. Not sure what people saw as definitive in the article, I've reread it a few times to make sure I'm not missing anything?
03-12-2015, 01:26 PM
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AP takes orders, he doesn't give them. What he says is scripted. Management will decide what GT models are produced. If the next GT3 has a manual it won't be because of the jabbering of the internet, but because management's decision to only offer PDK so that the car would sell better in new markets didn't pan out. It cost nothing to conceive and produce the GT4 once management decided it wouldn't eat into the 911 image or sales. Doesn't mean it won't be a great car, but that's not the basis for the decision making process.
03-12-2015, 01:30 PM
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03-12-2015, 01:39 PM
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I really enjoy AP and respect his points of views, but with all due respect to him and the entire GT motorsport team at Porsche, these decisions he's hinting at (NA engines, PDK, RWD, etc.) aren't really his to make, or those of the GT division.
They are R&D, and Porsche has a separate department that has to (1) balance the books, (2) answer to shareholders, and (3) prevent an internecine proxy fight.
It would be great if Porsche could do and produce all the things we want here (i.e., 7MT car, NA engine, RWD, under 1200 kg, etc.) but the future of Porsche (as our own Eduardo has alluded to) is a mid-engine FeFi in the guise of the 960, or whatever they want to call it.
They are R&D, and Porsche has a separate department that has to (1) balance the books, (2) answer to shareholders, and (3) prevent an internecine proxy fight.
It would be great if Porsche could do and produce all the things we want here (i.e., 7MT car, NA engine, RWD, under 1200 kg, etc.) but the future of Porsche (as our own Eduardo has alluded to) is a mid-engine FeFi in the guise of the 960, or whatever they want to call it.
03-12-2015, 02:23 PM
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Sure sounds like a naturally aspirated manual 991.2 GT3 is in the works...
“We wanted to make the car as light as possible, as analog as possible, and at the same time maybe more fun on the track,” Preuinger said. “We know the car would have been a fraction faster with a PDK—that’s simply a fact—but this is proof positive we still believe in manuals. My personal aim is that maybe for coming generations we leave it up to the customer whether [they] want a PDK or a manual in all GT cars.”[/I]
“We wanted to make the car as light as possible, as analog as possible, and at the same time maybe more fun on the track,” Preuinger said. “We know the car would have been a fraction faster with a PDK—that’s simply a fact—but this is proof positive we still believe in manuals. My personal aim is that maybe for coming generations we leave it up to the customer whether [they] want a PDK or a manual in all GT cars.”[/I]
What worries me here is the above highlighted. This will need board clearance to become reality.
They didnt have problems selling 3300 GT3 and they wont have problems selling 1800 RS both of which are PDK. The fact 1800-2500 Cayman GT4 (a new product and the cheapest GT car ever yet) is sold out is probably not evidence enough for the board to pay for BOTH a manual and PDK version of a GT3 in the future.
My prediction here is GT3 will be offered manual only 991.2 gen (it will be slower than 991.1 Gen) and the 991.2 Gen will be offered PDK only for headline performance figures and outright Ring time "dominance" in class/price.
Yes customers will be given the choice. GT3 or RS. No bad thing I reckon...if AP can get the board to compromise to that level...