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Old 03-07-2015, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by aussie jimmy
"license and registration, please"

'it's on the front bumper, man!' lol

neuro - the weather is beautiful here! 26 degrees celcius and sunny.

thanks for the info, will pursue it further.
i don't get motion sickness, just vertigo when in plane or high up balconies or buildings.
It's 75 Fahrenheit and sunny in CA, too. I've been meaning to come down and dive the GBR and race in Targa Tasmania. On my bucket list.

You'll have to ask Jimmy D to bring the THC, not me. Is that a song?
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How does a Porsche camera man not be "track-tested" in advance?

I'm more impressed by Brenden's (sp) entry into the GT3 RS, gliding into the front seat with the ease of a gumby doll. That's my only concession to age: the 991 911 requires more flexibility than my 997 911.
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guess we are way off topic, but i am extremely sensitive to motion sickness...not great when you are on planes a lot, so i have become quite in tune with what works... the patches work ok, but so does bonine over the counter...(meclizine sp?)... it works absolute best in my opinion.... i have had a couple episodes land me in the ER over the years and when all else fails they give valium, which seems to just knock it out...(who would have thought something like that gets prescribed for acute vertigo)... no issues ever driving, including those times I have been on track, but not a good passenger...so i can feel for this guy... boats are the worst for me, no amount of medicine/patches/etc. helps, have tried a few times...anything beyond a ferry and no thanks... my boys have to ride rollercoasters with my wife too
Old 03-07-2015, 10:19 PM
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Scopalamine patch very good prophylaxis, just wear your sunglasses. You are technically impaired with valium while driving so I would be careful with that. just my 2c
Old 03-07-2015, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 991 3Turbo
Scopalamine patch very good prophylaxis, just wear your sunglasses. You are technically impaired with valium while driving so I would be careful with that. just my 2c
haha... in the ER room, not in a car!... only a couple times in 40 yrs when it was so bad that i couldn't sit, stand, lie, walk, nothing... the scopolamine doesn't work well for me, but bonine before and/or during does, every time
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Do you get sick fishing also? Seems like people either do easily or not at all from my experience.
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
guess we are way off topic, but i am extremely sensitive to motion sickness...not great when you are on planes a lot, so i have become quite in tune with what works... the patches work ok, but so does bonine over the counter...(meclizine sp?)... it works absolute best in my opinion.... i have had a couple episodes land me in the ER over the years and when all else fails they give valium, which seems to just knock it out...(who would have thought something like that gets prescribed for acute vertigo)... no issues ever driving, including those times I have been on track, but not a good passenger...so i can feel for this guy... boats are the worst for me, no amount of medicine/patches/etc. helps, have tried a few times...anything beyond a ferry and no thanks... my boys have to ride rollercoasters with my wife too
I'm right there with you. No reading, concentrating on anything for more than a minute of so, no movies, etc. while moving. It's extremely frustrating. I hate traveling because of it. Everyone else gets to enjoy themselves, and I'm sitting there like a bump on a log. I've been on one fishing trip. It was the worst 6 hours of my life. I will never do that again.

I'm going to check out some meclizine.
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Meclizine is a standard anti-vertigo medication. It works great for many applications.
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Originally Posted by Money2536
I'm right there with you. No reading, concentrating on anything for more than a minute of so, no movies, etc. while moving. It's extremely frustrating. I hate traveling because of it. Everyone else gets to enjoy themselves, and I'm sitting there like a bump on a log. I've been on one fishing trip. It was the worst 6 hours of my life. I will never do that again.

I'm going to check out some meclizine.
i am guessing you mean deep sea fishing.

i do fine on fresh water for the most part unless it is just really unusual/bad. its the deep swells, etc. in the ocean that cause me problems. we go fishing down in the middle keys of florida (islamadora) and i do ok there on calm days. but i take meclizine ahead of time and during.

i am 42, and i guess for me by now i have just figured out what i can do and cant do, and how to deal with it. lots of tests, brain MRI, etc. to make sure its nothing serious going on, just benign positional postural vertigo (BPPV), with a little menieres disease mixed in for good measure. On a boat, I always go to the very front and watch the horizon, on a plane, i always fly towards the front, window seat, so i can see the horizon, and try not to get up to go to bathroom often, when in a car, i need to be driving or in front seat. so like in a car/taxi on a hot summer day from O'Hare to downtown Chicago, I am asking the taxi driver if I can sit in front with him. no roller coasters. Otherwise life is quite normal. There are plenty people that have to deal with much worse issues.
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Originally Posted by neuroguru
People who have allergy-induced sinusitis and have subsequent vertigo and motion sensitivity might benefit from a histamine-antagonist like Zyrtec, but normal folks without allergies haven't been shown in prospective trials to benefit for pure motion sickness, but if you have had success, it's nice to be an outlier.
I always use meclizine but the anesthesia docs like the scopolamine patches if they get them on in time. I have found zyrtec sedating in 25-50% of patients and some reports a cloudy feeling the following day. Not sure about it for motion sickness, i agree.
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
i am guessing you mean deep sea fishing.

i do fine on fresh water for the most part unless it is just really unusual/bad. its the deep swells, etc. in the ocean that cause me problems. we go fishing down in the middle keys of florida (islamadora) and i do ok there on calm days. but i take meclizine ahead of time and during.

i am 42, and i guess for me by now i have just figured out what i can do and cant do, and how to deal with it. lots of tests, brain MRI, etc. to make sure its nothing serious going on, just benign positional postural vertigo (BPPV), with a little menieres disease mixed in for good measure. On a boat, I always go to the very front and watch the horizon, on a plane, i always fly towards the front, window seat, so i can see the horizon, and try not to get up to go to bathroom often, when in a car, i need to be driving or in front seat. so like in a car/taxi on a hot summer day from O'Hare to downtown Chicago, I am asking the taxi driver if I can sit in front with him. no roller coasters. Otherwise life is quite normal. There are plenty people that have to deal with much worse issues.
Have you had an eng(balance test), there are a lot of exercises and rehab you can do for bpv (brandt daroff, look them up on you tube) or go through physical rehab.....menieres would be a bit different, usually has roaring ringing/rushing, decreased hearing during an attack and violent vertigo. Can last several hours, whereas bpv last seconds no more than a minute or two. Lo sodium diet, diuretics and there are some procedures that can dramatically help.. If you need a referral to an ear subspecialist(neurotologist) just pm me.
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
i am guessing you mean deep sea fishing.

i do fine on fresh water for the most part unless it is just really unusual/bad. its the deep swells, etc. in the ocean that cause me problems. we go fishing down in the middle keys of florida (islamadora) and i do ok there on calm days. but i take meclizine ahead of time and during.

i am 42, and i guess for me by now i have just figured out what i can do and cant do, and how to deal with it. lots of tests, brain MRI, etc. to make sure its nothing serious going on, just benign positional postural vertigo (BPPV), with a little menieres disease mixed in for good measure. On a boat, I always go to the very front and watch the horizon, on a plane, i always fly towards the front, window seat, so i can see the horizon, and try not to get up to go to bathroom often, when in a car, i need to be driving or in front seat. so like in a car/taxi on a hot summer day from O'Hare to downtown Chicago, I am asking the taxi driver if I can sit in front with him. no roller coasters. Otherwise life is quite normal. There are plenty people that have to deal with much worse issues.
Yes, deep sea fishing. We were about 25 miles out with 3ft. swells (or whatever they call it). Ironically, it was my bachelor party. I never actually vomited. I'm pretty puke-aphobic. It probably would have helped to let it go. I just sat there staring at the horizon freezing and sweating. I took a dose of Dramamine, which just made it worse. I just wanted to go to sleep.

The millisecond that we got into the inter-coastal, I was up eating chips and was ready to run a mile. I'm good on a lake as long as I'm not riding backward for too long.

I can do roller coasters but end up feeling like crap afterward. I don't ride them any more. I used to tough it out as a kid. I definitely can't ride one back-to-back.

My mom and sister have the same thing. My sister is much more stubborn than me. When we were kids, she would insist on reading until she threw up.

I'm with you though, I just know my limitations.
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osu s2k, i find that those that recommend the exercises are those that have not been through them
have tried some of that, its a case where the treatment can be worse than the episodes... will send you a PM so as not to drag the board through this...really appreciate the offer, always open to a 2nd/3rd/4th opinion, if there is some chance for relief
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Originally Posted by osu s2k
I always use meclizine but the anesthesia docs like the scopolamine patches if they get them on in time. I have found zyrtec sedating in 25-50% of patients and some reports a cloudy feeling the following day. Not sure about it for motion sickness, i agree.
I have taken Zyrtec for seasonal allergies to pollen. It was very effective at combating my pollen allergy, but I felt like a zombie.
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I've never experienced nausea in a car, including as a passenger with a pro driver at the wheel. Amusement rides? No problem.

That said, I have turned down fishing on the ocean, as you're stuck on a boat and nothing can mitigate the hellish experience if the motion is too much.


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