RS Total US Allocations Best Estimate 1200-1500 units
03-27-2015, 12:32 AM
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03-27-2015, 12:38 AM
#137
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03-27-2015, 03:22 AM
#138
Add people with more money than brains to that list. haha
Here's my prediction....there will be a 2nd allocation later this year, then a 3rd next year, and then an extra special present of PTS allocations to the most favored dealers by PCNA (same as the 991).
Here's my prediction....there will be a 2nd allocation later this year, then a 3rd next year, and then an extra special present of PTS allocations to the most favored dealers by PCNA (same as the 991).
03-27-2015, 10:58 AM
#140
If we guess that total US production will land around 1800 cars. And US got 50%? WW prod is 3600 991gt3s!
I believe PAG are hoping to sell 1000-1200 RS in the US? And maybe 2000 WW prod?
I still hope they will make the stripped out "cup edition". But so far haven't heard anything. Guessing with the transition to .2 if it happens will likely be built on the .2RS?
03-27-2015, 11:05 AM
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Most of the volume will be at MSRP for sure, no discounts!
Try more like 2500 units with a special edition at the end on top of that, for a total of 3000 WW.
I don't think there is the same demand for a almost $200k RS as there is for the 1.3!
If we guess that total US production will land around 1800 cars. And US got 50%? WW prod is 3600 991gt3s!
I believe PAG are hoping to sell 1000-1200 RS in the US? And maybe 2000 WW prod?
I still hope they will make the stripped out "cup edition". But so far haven't heard anything. Guessing with the transition to .2 if it happens will likely be built on the .2RS?
If we guess that total US production will land around 1800 cars. And US got 50%? WW prod is 3600 991gt3s!
I believe PAG are hoping to sell 1000-1200 RS in the US? And maybe 2000 WW prod?
I still hope they will make the stripped out "cup edition". But so far haven't heard anything. Guessing with the transition to .2 if it happens will likely be built on the .2RS?
03-27-2015, 11:56 AM
#142
I don't think there is the same demand for a almost $200k RS as there is for the 1.3!
If we guess that total US production will land around 1800 cars. And US got 50%? WW prod is 3600 991gt3s!
I believe PAG are hoping to sell 1000-1200 RS in the US? And maybe 2000 WW prod?
I still hope they will make the stripped out "cup edition". But so far haven't heard anything. Guessing with the transition to .2 if it happens will likely be built on the .2RS?
If we guess that total US production will land around 1800 cars. And US got 50%? WW prod is 3600 991gt3s!
I believe PAG are hoping to sell 1000-1200 RS in the US? And maybe 2000 WW prod?
I still hope they will make the stripped out "cup edition". But so far haven't heard anything. Guessing with the transition to .2 if it happens will likely be built on the .2RS?
This ignores the fact that wealth from a much higher housing market and stock market at the moment. The S&P 500 has almost doubled since the last RS was released at $140k base price to $175k base price.
If you compare it to my 1.3 spec it was only $35k cheaper given things like LWBs, carbon interior etc are already included in the RS pricing. I think it's a relative no brainer especially considering the value historic value retention of the RS vs the GT3.
06-01-2015, 09:49 AM
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At 186 mph, the new RS generates an overall downforce of 727.5 pounds without producing problem zones of air resistance. The ribbed air outlets on the front wings are partly responsible
“We have outperformed ourselves when it comes to efficiency,” says project manager Preuninger. That applies to the aerodynamics as much as the engine. Sven Müller runs a hand over the rear wing. At 186 mph, the new RS generates an overall downforce of 727.5 pounds without producing problem zones of air resistance. A detail on the front end of the vehicle is partly responsible for this. “Do you see the ribbed air outlets on the carbon-fiber fenders? You usually find that only on pure sports cars,” says Earl Bamber.
His enthusiasm grows when his colleague Müller shows him the standard cockpit encased in a rollover cage. “Look, there’s even a speed limiter for the pit lane,” says the German, pointing to a switch in the center console. The RS is usually the second Porsche in a customer’s garage and is a pure driving machine, often found on the racetrack. “Oh, it has a USB port,” praises Bamber. As one would expect in this digital age, Porsche also offers a track app that measures lap times with GPS.
For ambitious drivers, the newly programmed control unit also stores real racing parameters such as rpm, lateral acceleration, and brake pressure. On the iPad, fast laps can be laid over one another virtually, allowing the GT3 RS to follow itself around the track as a ghost car. Its predecessor will only be able to see the new RS as a speck on Döttinger Höhe at the end of its lap around the North Loop of the Nürburgring. The developers estimate the new one to be at least ten seconds faster.
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Barely visible, but easily perceptible: The four-liter six-cylinder boxer engine gen*erates 500 hp (368 kW) and turns at a maximum of 8,800 rpm
Sven Müller knocks against the carbon front hood. As you would expect, the RS had to lose weight to become a real racing machine. An exhaust system made of titanium saves around nine pounds and, on the racetrack, the battery can be swapped for a lighter lithium-ion rechargeable battery. The real trick, however, is the striking roof with the wide groove in the middle, which reduces the frontal area. “The roof is an innovation not previously found in this form among automobiles. It is made of magnesium sheet metal and weighs 2.2 pounds less than a carbon-fiber roof,” says Preuninger.
The technical upgrade should have made the new RS significantly heavier than the conventional GT3: the increased dimensions of the chassis and the larger wheels alone account for 44 pounds of extra weight. The same applies to the dual-clutch transmission, which replaces the conventional gearbox. But the idea that fast lap times can be achieved only with extremely lightweight construction is no longer true. “If we have systems that improve performance and fit the vehicle, we put them in,” says Preuninger. And so the new GT3 RS is only 22 pounds lighter than the previous one, because the engineers did not wish to forgo a torque vectoring differential and rear-axle steering, both of which improve handling and speed on curves.
“Unfortunately, even as a new factory driver for 2015, I won’t be given a GT3 RS as a company car,” sighs Bamber. The RS is not limited, but until the production window closes in Spring 2016, a maximum of two thousand units will find their way to happy new owners.
By Markus Stier
Photos by Victor Jon Goico
At 186 mph, the new RS generates an overall downforce of 727.5 pounds without producing problem zones of air resistance. The ribbed air outlets on the front wings are partly responsible
“We have outperformed ourselves when it comes to efficiency,” says project manager Preuninger. That applies to the aerodynamics as much as the engine. Sven Müller runs a hand over the rear wing. At 186 mph, the new RS generates an overall downforce of 727.5 pounds without producing problem zones of air resistance. A detail on the front end of the vehicle is partly responsible for this. “Do you see the ribbed air outlets on the carbon-fiber fenders? You usually find that only on pure sports cars,” says Earl Bamber.
His enthusiasm grows when his colleague Müller shows him the standard cockpit encased in a rollover cage. “Look, there’s even a speed limiter for the pit lane,” says the German, pointing to a switch in the center console. The RS is usually the second Porsche in a customer’s garage and is a pure driving machine, often found on the racetrack. “Oh, it has a USB port,” praises Bamber. As one would expect in this digital age, Porsche also offers a track app that measures lap times with GPS.
For ambitious drivers, the newly programmed control unit also stores real racing parameters such as rpm, lateral acceleration, and brake pressure. On the iPad, fast laps can be laid over one another virtually, allowing the GT3 RS to follow itself around the track as a ghost car. Its predecessor will only be able to see the new RS as a speck on Döttinger Höhe at the end of its lap around the North Loop of the Nürburgring. The developers estimate the new one to be at least ten seconds faster.
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Barely visible, but easily perceptible: The four-liter six-cylinder boxer engine gen*erates 500 hp (368 kW) and turns at a maximum of 8,800 rpm
Sven Müller knocks against the carbon front hood. As you would expect, the RS had to lose weight to become a real racing machine. An exhaust system made of titanium saves around nine pounds and, on the racetrack, the battery can be swapped for a lighter lithium-ion rechargeable battery. The real trick, however, is the striking roof with the wide groove in the middle, which reduces the frontal area. “The roof is an innovation not previously found in this form among automobiles. It is made of magnesium sheet metal and weighs 2.2 pounds less than a carbon-fiber roof,” says Preuninger.
The technical upgrade should have made the new RS significantly heavier than the conventional GT3: the increased dimensions of the chassis and the larger wheels alone account for 44 pounds of extra weight. The same applies to the dual-clutch transmission, which replaces the conventional gearbox. But the idea that fast lap times can be achieved only with extremely lightweight construction is no longer true. “If we have systems that improve performance and fit the vehicle, we put them in,” says Preuninger. And so the new GT3 RS is only 22 pounds lighter than the previous one, because the engineers did not wish to forgo a torque vectoring differential and rear-axle steering, both of which improve handling and speed on curves.
“Unfortunately, even as a new factory driver for 2015, I won’t be given a GT3 RS as a company car,” sighs Bamber. The RS is not limited, but until the production window closes in Spring 2016, a maximum of two thousand units will find their way to happy new owners.
By Markus Stier
Photos by Victor Jon Goico
06-01-2015, 10:28 PM
#145
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^ I've seen the 2000 unit number in more than one article as quoted from Porsche. One can only assume this is their plan number, but it is odd that with such high demand they would limit the production unless they are running into supplier issues which has happened with the seats and who knows what else with some of the special RS parts.
So, if 2000 is the new number, that leaves open still a special run of 600 or so "Cup Car" special editions to close out the 991.1 generation. Don't know what that could be....
I'm not ready to modify my initial estimate of the numbers we will see state side but it's a safe bet at half of WW production whatever that number turns out to be. 1000 units to the USA if only 2000 will keep all the cars sold at list or higher and leave more than a few customers without one. Let's hope the influence of VW pushes them closer to 2500 to 3000 units.
So, if 2000 is the new number, that leaves open still a special run of 600 or so "Cup Car" special editions to close out the 991.1 generation. Don't know what that could be....
I'm not ready to modify my initial estimate of the numbers we will see state side but it's a safe bet at half of WW production whatever that number turns out to be. 1000 units to the USA if only 2000 will keep all the cars sold at list or higher and leave more than a few customers without one. Let's hope the influence of VW pushes them closer to 2500 to 3000 units.
06-06-2015, 04:22 AM
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I've been told over 2000 units worldwide. pAG are currently revising all production volumes for Gt4/GT3RS for colander year 2016. I've been doing some work on this as I'm trying to plan a 2 month tour of Europe in 2016 in a new GT4 and I want a June 2016 build date! Apparently a call was made late to extend GT3 production and now PAG executives are already discussing extending volumes of the 4. The RS volumes are an extension of this. There has been a bit of a shake up at VW. They have a currency window to exploit. The next 4 years should see VAG profits soar as Europe gets on its feet with the USA leading the way and the emerging economies riding the coat tails into the next super growth cycle...demand will only increase but competition is going to come from interesting sectors such as a Tesla & Apple!!!
06-06-2015, 11:27 AM
#149
I've been told over 2000 units worldwide. pAG are currently revising all production volumes for Gt4/GT3RS for colander year 2016. I've been doing some work on this as I'm trying to plan a 2 month tour of Europe in 2016 in a new GT4 and I want a June 2016 build date! Apparently a call was made late to extend GT3 production and now PAG executives are already discussing extending volumes of the 4. The RS volumes are an extension of this. There has been a bit of a shake up at VW. They have a currency window to exploit. The next 4 years should see VAG profits soar as Europe gets on its feet with the USA leading the way and the emerging economies riding the coat tails into the next super growth cycle...demand will only increase but competition is going to come from interesting sectors such as a Tesla & Apple!!!
06-06-2015, 05:58 PM
#150
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All I know is production was originally intended to cease end of February 2015, and the decision to extend was made around mid November 2014 by the production planning team...