991.2 GT3
#46
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Porsche didn't have any issue letting 997.2 GT3 comprehensively outperform 997.1 GT3 RS (7:40 vs 7:48). Doubt it will be an issue now.
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I was at my local P-car dealer today getting my GT3 serviced. While I was there, I was chatting with the service manager about the 991 GT3 and he stated that Porsche is supposed to release a manual option for the 991.2 GT3.
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4.0-8 will add weight and increase fuel consumption.
#49
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I think it has been known for a while that larger pistons hit a wall ultimately. Remember when F1 cars had V8 engines with pistons the size of baby food jars? I have read sonewhere that many internally at Porsche see the current piston size of the flat six to be at a dead end. If I am correct the 4.0 flat six got there via longer stroke. If the GT3 is to remain normally aspirated I would think that a flat eight is the way to go.
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I think it has been known for a while that larger pistons hit a wall ultimately. Remember when F1 cars had V8 engines with pistons the size of baby food jars? I have read sonewhere that many internally at Porsche see the current piston size of the flat six to be at a dead end. If I am correct the 4.0 flat six got there via longer stroke. If the GT3 is to remain normally aspirated I would think that a flat eight is the way to go.
I'd rather have them keep the engine relatively unchanged and get the car weight down to under 2500lbs via carbon fiber tub and other bits.
#51
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Max I agree that from a dollars and cents perspective (cost wise) some kind of FI is the way to go. I just hope that PAG will see to retain a line of NA cars. That most likely could be very costly due to development of a new engine. I guess that what FIA/ACO ultimately decide with respect to GT3 rules will ultimately have a bearing on the direction Porsche will ultimately go. If FIA/ACO define GT3 as with FI motors then that will be the answer.
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MT in the next 3 and PTS on the current RS...wow what a night. One can only hope, let's just never give up boys.
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Max I agree that from a dollars and cents perspective (cost wise) some kind of FI is the way to go. I just hope that PAG will see to retain a line of NA cars. That most likely could be very costly due to development of a new engine. I guess that is what FIA/ACO ultimately decide with respect to GT3 rules will ultimately have a bearing on the direction Porsche will ultimately go. If FIA/ACO define GT3 as with FI motors then that will be the answer.
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I wonder, if following Porsche practice of making subsequent same line models better performing than the predecessors, how can they make the 991.2 MT faster than the 991.1 PDK. BIG HP jump? Turbo?
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However, it doesn't need to be faster. Just having a manual option will be enough. People overpaying for 997 GT3s lately didn't care that the care was slower than the 991 GT3. They just wanted a manual.
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I love my .1 GT3. I can't think of anything that would tempt me to order a .2 GT3, unless the 991.2 GT3 gets a 4.0 liter engine, with corresponding torque increase.
A typical Porsche modest hp for the .2 GT3 wouldn't interest me.
A typical Porsche modest hp for the .2 GT3 wouldn't interest me.
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Two Cents I believe the 9A1 was conceived and produced as a stop-gap engine to mark time between the Mezger and whatever is next. Mezger insurmountables (even for Porsche) are: high part count (supposedly twice that of 9A1), high manufacturing cost, and, going forward, inability to meet ever more Draconian environmental regulations. Political correctness often carries a very high price. I see proof of the 9A1's "place holder" status in the fact that Porsche has invested ZERO in putting it into meaningful competition. Don't know whats next, but probably smaller, probably force fed, probably semi-electric (at least at some point). Hope it still sounds like a real Porsche.
Flat six is stretched on displacement at much beyond 4.0-4.2 liters. That leaves flat 8 (nobody will die upon the revelation) or forced induction. I would vastly prefer the former. And if forced to accept FI, would even prefer a supercharger to turbo, but that won't happen.
My bet is flat 8 somewhere down the line if we can avoid these stupid vacuum cleaners in the interest of fuel economy.