991.2 GT3
03-03-2015, 08:41 PM
#19
Absolute bullseye post, Nate!! That's what's coming next. No, I didn't hear that from any reliable source but seems to be the most logical next chapter. I think the GT3 and RS are maxed out, as evidenced by the narrow separation of both - no more N/A's. Hope not, but a heavy lean over to turbos in the entire line as commented by Porsche execs.
03-03-2015, 08:46 PM
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I agree that the current GT3 & RS engines are likely stop-gap solutions for Porsche. But it's not a bad thing - given that they are pretty good, they are not lame ducks but rather unique milestones. I hope Porsche keeps these engines for another iteration (.2) but eventually it will have to move on to turbos or electric or a combination of those.
03-03-2015, 08:58 PM
#21
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Absolute bullseye post, Nate!! That's what's coming next. No, I didn't hear that from any reliable source but seems to be the most logical next chapter. I think the GT3 and RS are maxed out, as evidenced by the narrow separation of both - no more N/A's. Hope not, but a heavy lean over to turbos in the entire line as commented by Porsche execs.
03-03-2015, 09:11 PM
#24
Absolute bullseye post, Nate!! That's what's coming next. No, I didn't hear that from any reliable source but seems to be the most logical next chapter. I think the GT3 and RS are maxed out, as evidenced by the narrow separation of both - no more N/A's. Hope not, but a heavy lean over to turbos in the entire line as commented by Porsche execs.
I've put my deposits down for the 2 and 2 RS, sure they'll be great cars and hopefully high enough redline! I think the sound will be fixed.
03-03-2015, 09:53 PM
#25
Three Wheelin'
IMHO: 4.0L flat eight, normally aspirated, 9250 RPM, motor moved another couple of inches forward. All regular 911s will be turbo.
A 4 liter flat eight would allow much smaller pistons and thus theoretically faster revving. How about 525 HP sound?
A 4 liter flat eight would allow much smaller pistons and thus theoretically faster revving. How about 525 HP sound?
03-03-2015, 10:08 PM
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The current iteration 991 GT3 and RS are different as they use a (cough, cough) "variant" of the 9A1 engine from the 991 Carrera lineup.
So with the 9A1 the economies of scale make things viable, but switch to a platform where the GT cars use separate inner plumbing from the rest of line, then we've got issues that pencil pushers will no doubt scream about.
Just my 0.02.
03-03-2015, 10:15 PM
#27
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I believe the 9A1 was conceived and produced as a stop-gap engine to mark time between the Mezger and whatever is next. Mezger insurmountables (even for Porsche) are: high part count (supposedly twice that of 9A1), high manufacturing cost, and, going forward, inability to meet ever more Draconian environmental regulations. Political correctness often carries a very high price.
I see proof of the 9A1's "place holder" status in the fact that Porsche has invested ZERO in putting it into meaningful competition.
Don't know whats next, but probably smaller, probably force fed, probably semi-electric (at least at some point).
Hope it still sounds like a real Porsche.
I believe the 9A1 was conceived and produced as a stop-gap engine to mark time between the Mezger and whatever is next. Mezger insurmountables (even for Porsche) are: high part count (supposedly twice that of 9A1), high manufacturing cost, and, going forward, inability to meet ever more Draconian environmental regulations. Political correctness often carries a very high price.
I see proof of the 9A1's "place holder" status in the fact that Porsche has invested ZERO in putting it into meaningful competition.
Don't know whats next, but probably smaller, probably force fed, probably semi-electric (at least at some point).
Hope it still sounds like a real Porsche.
03-03-2015, 11:28 PM
#28
Three Wheelin'
While that would be nice, not sure it makes financial sense for PAG to develop a new engine (the flat-8) that applies only to GT cars (either the GT3 or RS). The GT cars are low volume, low production cars, that do not bring in large profits (or create large profit margins) for the company.
The current iteration 991 GT3 and RS are different as they use a (cough, cough) "variant" of the 9A1 engine from the 991 Carrera lineup.
So with the 9A1 the economies of scale make things viable, but switch to a platform where the GT cars use separate inner plumbing from the rest of line, then we've got issues that pencil pushers will no doubt scream about.
Just my 0.02.
The current iteration 991 GT3 and RS are different as they use a (cough, cough) "variant" of the 9A1 engine from the 991 Carrera lineup.
So with the 9A1 the economies of scale make things viable, but switch to a platform where the GT cars use separate inner plumbing from the rest of line, then we've got issues that pencil pushers will no doubt scream about.
Just my 0.02.
Obviously such engine could be the basis for homologation for future competition motors.
One thing is clear in my head is that the 991.2 GT3 will have a flat configuration as that is the brand.
03-03-2015, 11:49 PM
#30
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As long as Porsche makes a 911 it will be a flat 6.