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Old 03-18-2015, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by unotaz View Post
No, you are way off base here. The high price is not due to shortage of cars, but because it's an oligopoly market and it's not 100% transparent. You can still get a brand new 918 or a P1 in China right now, despite what you read in the news claiming these cars are all sold. There is even a brand new LaF for sale in China as well, at over $4 million dollars MSRP.

Porsche in China is actually run by several major dealers, split between different regions. This, along with the high margins that the other manufacturers are charging (eg. BMW, Mercedes, Bentley, Ferrari and etc), it has created this huge demand for grey imports.

Put it this way, if the price difference between an official import car and a grey import car is about 5%, why wouldn't you get the official car with the full factory warranty? Of course you would. But what if the price difference is now 30-35%? Would that make you think twice about purchasing an official import?
Supply and demand my friend, supply and demand. They maybe artificially manipulated but guaranteed it is the ruling force. My main point is if Porsche has anything to do with it the supply to Asia will not include allocations to the USA.

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Old 03-18-2015, 01:07 PM
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I think they will make enough cars, they make no money selling you nothing. Also keep in mind that as the price goes up the number of buyers drops
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Originally Posted by dark knight View Post
I think they will make enough cars, they make no money selling you nothing. Also keep in mind that as the price goes up the number of buyers drops
Yeah, how many $200k+ buyers are there really out there that will buy this car?
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Old 03-18-2015, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3 View Post
Yeah, how many $200k+ buyers are there really out there that will buy this car?
Precisely n + 1, where n is the number of allocations available.
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Old 03-18-2015, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NateOZ View Post
Precisely n + 1, where n is the number of allocations available.
but one or more of those +1 guys is either out of the country, working and too busy to order a car, or getting divorced so the number should be just right
( I don't even want to mention the guys excited by the latest shiny new thing, who are buying a mclaren, Ford GT or NSX instead)
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i will go visit the dealers on the weekend
i want to try the McLaren 12C (with ECU upgrade you get 700HP !)
and the 458 again (last time i drove it was few years ago)

i'm afraid the 12C not exiting and engage
check the Video on this page:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...n_mp4_12c.html


motor trend best driver car's , 997 GT3RS and the 458:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...11_gt3_rs.html

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...58_italia.html

458 or 12C i will buy used
what about cost of ownership?

1. not brand new car (like my GT3)
2. i don't know ownership cost of Ferrari vs Porsche
right now i'm paying to State farm around $350 , and since my car new there is no maintenance at all for the next year."
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My local dealer has a lease deal on a 500 mile 12C for $2500/month. I think it's a McLaren offer to move the 12C demos dealers are stuck with. Pretty good deal on a car with full warranty etc.
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Old 03-18-2015, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pelo911 View Post
i will go visit the dealers on the weekend
i want to try the McLaren 12C (with ECU upgrade you get 700HP !)
and the 458 again (last time i drove it was few years ago)

i'm afraid the 12C not exiting and engage
check the Video on this page:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...n_mp4_12c.html


motor trend best driver car's , 997 GT3RS and the 458:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...11_gt3_rs.html

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...58_italia.html

458 or 12C i will buy used
what about cost of ownership?

1. not brand new car (like my GT3)
2. i don't know ownership cost of Ferrari vs Porsche
right now i'm paying to State farm around $350 , and since my car new there is no maintenance at all for the next year."
Macs have horrible (probably the worst) resale value of most exotics. If you're looking to drop $200k, hell wait for the Sports Series coming out and grab one for $50k off probably. I wouldn't touch a 458 right now, but if you really want one, get one with some warranty left and maint included included for 7 years (those would be 2012's or later).
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Old 03-18-2015, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ATXGT3 View Post
Macs have horrible (probably the worst) resale value of most exotics. If you're looking to drop $200k, hell wait for the Sports Series coming out and grab one for $50k off probably. I wouldn't touch a 458 right now, but if you really want one, get one with some warranty left and maint included included for 7 years (those would be 2012's or later).
Buy a used 12C spyder. Fun car and freaking fast. The 458 sound is intoxicating and the market is flooded with them right now. Agree with buying one with warranty left or extended.
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agree....if you must...find a mac 12c used.....low ball the hell out of it.

tons for sale, and prices are showing it
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Originally Posted by kyrocks View Post
Buy a used 12C spyder. Fun car and freaking fast. The 458 sound is intoxicating and the market is flooded with them right now. Agree with buying one with warranty left or extended.
Why did you sell the 458? I remember you bought a yellow 458 just a few months ago. Just curious.
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