Sport bucket seats and children
#61
Burning Brakes
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For sure, I don't think that there is an argument or debate here. Personally I am just still trying to figure out what the contention is. Because I have lwb, and I have small kids that ride in them. Why would the airbags deploying be different than any other vehicle with airbag deploying? Why would lwb with weight sensors be any different than any other seat with sensors? I see the light indicate that they shut off when my kid sits down. Still confused :-)
You can see by the myriad of responses in this thread that there is still a lot of confusion about the safety of children in the LWBs. My dealer, apparently along with several others, isn't sure and like many others here... as much as I love cars... I put the safety of my son first and foremost.
When I posted this originally I had hoped that my query would get some solid answers and it appears that we're headed in that direction.
There are several versions of child safety seats, including:
- rear facing buckets
- rear facing seats
- front facing that rely on LATCH
- front facing that rely on belts
- front facing boosters
My guess is that the LWB's remain unsafe for children who rely on the first three. However, if your child (or small adult, if you think about it) is using a booster, these seats should be perfectly safe.
I want to thank all of you for your responses so far and promise to report back when I hear something definitive back.
#62
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As the OP, I can only speak for my reasons for posting.
You can see by the myriad of responses in this thread that there is still a lot of confusion about the safety of children in the LWBs. My dealer, apparently along with several others, isn't sure and like many others here... as much as I love cars... I put the safety of my son first and foremost.
When I posted this originally I had hoped that my query would get some solid answers and it appears that we're headed in that direction.
There are several versions of child safety seats, including:
- rear facing buckets
- rear facing seats
- front facing that rely on LATCH
- front facing that rely on belts
- front facing boosters
My guess is that the LWB's remain unsafe for children who rely on the first three. However, if your child (or small adult, if you think about it) is using a booster, these seats should be perfectly safe.
I want to thank all of you for your responses so far and promise to report back when I hear something definitive back.
You can see by the myriad of responses in this thread that there is still a lot of confusion about the safety of children in the LWBs. My dealer, apparently along with several others, isn't sure and like many others here... as much as I love cars... I put the safety of my son first and foremost.
When I posted this originally I had hoped that my query would get some solid answers and it appears that we're headed in that direction.
There are several versions of child safety seats, including:
- rear facing buckets
- rear facing seats
- front facing that rely on LATCH
- front facing that rely on belts
- front facing boosters
My guess is that the LWB's remain unsafe for children who rely on the first three. However, if your child (or small adult, if you think about it) is using a booster, these seats should be perfectly safe.
I want to thank all of you for your responses so far and promise to report back when I hear something definitive back.
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Hey guys I am late to the thread but I was hoping someone can answer this question for me. I have a 2 year old. My car has the 18 way. Can I put a car seat in the front and if so does porsche sell an OEM one I can buy?
#64
I believe Porsche sells a seat, but it's a 5 point harness seat to be used forward facing. I'm pretty against using 5 point harnesses forward facing for the same reason I don't use one on my self without a hans device. I prefer the impact shield approach at this age, but you should do your own research on it.
#65
Burning Brakes
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http://www.porsche.com/usa/tequipment-childseats/
FYI - do some research, I have nothing against the Tequipment seats but found better (for me and my family) alternatives in the market.
There are several factors (age, weight, etc.) and some states have different rules but if memory serves me right (my son is now 4 so forgive me that I don't remember 2 years ago with certainty), your child should now be in a front facing, LATCH equipped seat.
If that's the case, and assuming you have a 991 GT3, yes... you can safely secure your child.
#66
Presumably your car is a GT3? If not and it has rear seats, you may be required by law to put your 2 year old in the back. Check your State's requirements.
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Porsche sells several child seats through their Tequipment line
http://www.porsche.com/usa/tequipment-childseats/
FYI - do some research, I have nothing against the Tequipment seats but found better (for me and my family) alternatives in the market.
There are several factors (age, weight, etc.) and some states have different rules but if memory serves me right (my son is now 4 so forgive me that I don't remember 2 years ago with certainty), your child should now be in a front facing, LATCH equipped seat.
If that's the case, and assuming you have a 991 GT3, yes... you can safely secure your child.
http://www.porsche.com/usa/tequipment-childseats/
FYI - do some research, I have nothing against the Tequipment seats but found better (for me and my family) alternatives in the market.
There are several factors (age, weight, etc.) and some states have different rules but if memory serves me right (my son is now 4 so forgive me that I don't remember 2 years ago with certainty), your child should now be in a front facing, LATCH equipped seat.
If that's the case, and assuming you have a 991 GT3, yes... you can safely secure your child.
When you say you found better, can you elaborate a little for me? I have both the Tequipment seat and an Orbit seat that we use for our 11 month old. What did your research yield that led you to alternatives? Thanks.
#68
Check out this link, some of the brands etc are different and some aren't available here yet, but you can also watch videos of the tests they do etc.
http://www.adac.de/infotestrat/tests...spx?tabid=tab1
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not true. that's Not applicable to 2 seat cars... corvette, GT3 etc. in CA, my 7yr old legally rides in the gt3 in a booster... HOWEVER, I'm not sure I'd want my 2yr old in there it IS legal... They cannot tell you not to transport a child when you have no other place to put them... frunk?
in a 5 seat vehicle, You can even have an under 8yr old kid in the front as long as the 3 back seats are filled with younger kids....
in a 5 seat vehicle, You can even have an under 8yr old kid in the front as long as the 3 back seats are filled with younger kids....
#71
not true. that's Not applicable to 2 seat cars... corvette, GT3 etc. in CA, my 7yr old legally rides in the gt3 in a booster... HOWEVER, I'm not sure I'd want my 2yr old in there it IS legal... They cannot tell you not to transport a child when you have no other place to put them... frunk?
in a 5 seat vehicle, You can even have an under 8yr old kid in the front as long as the 3 back seats are filled with younger kids....
Interesting info....did not know that and neither did a friend if mine who lives in LA....thanks
#72
Burning Brakes
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not true. that's Not applicable to 2 seat cars... corvette, GT3 etc. in CA, my 7yr old legally rides in the gt3 in a booster... HOWEVER, I'm not sure I'd want my 2yr old in there it IS legal... They cannot tell you not to transport a child when you have no other place to put them... frunk?
in a 5 seat vehicle, You can even have an under 8yr old kid in the front as long as the 3 back seats are filled with younger kids....
in a 5 seat vehicle, You can even have an under 8yr old kid in the front as long as the 3 back seats are filled with younger kids....
#73
Burning Brakes
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I was surprised that some presumably high end brands didn't fare as well as what I assumed to be inferior seats. As I recall, the Tequipment seats were good... they just weren't the best, especially when you consider the entry fee.
I will try and look when I'm home this weekend and if I can find those links, I'll happily post them.
#74
Here is something written in the Tequipment catalog about the child seats. If you look to the right of the page, it says child seats must not be used with the Sports bucket seats. I'm still waiting for Adam Miller to respond back to me with the rest of the restrictions including the booster seat. See attached PDF.
TEQ_991_EN_Web 27.pdf
TEQ_991_EN_Web 27.pdf
#75
Note it does say that "the use of a child seat is permitted only in conjunction with child seat preparation" before the "Child seat must not be used with Sports bucket seats".
The child seat preparation isn't available for the Sports bucket seats, so I think this is the main issue with the Porsche child seats.
The child seat preparation isn't available for the Sports bucket seats, so I think this is the main issue with the Porsche child seats.