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Old 12-25-2014, 11:12 AM
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Mike, at a simple level, it raises a fundamental question: is it better to burn out or to fade away?

I see the world more and more concerned about surviving than living. The GT3 and the likes ate about the latter, IMO. While the majority is moving to survive, or so it appears, many will remain focused on enjoying opportunities that present themselves.

In the long run, I think Stephen Hawkins is probably right... And if it happens in my lifetime, I will have the tool to rectify 'my' circumstances...

Until then, let's all enjoy our toys and have a merry merry Christmas!
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And we can eliminate AIDS and the population explosion by utilizing inflatable dolls.
Old 12-25-2014, 04:08 PM
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Mike,

Perhaps there is a "driving" gene one either has or does not.
Some people are passionate about it, others, like my wife, view driving as a bore or chore.

Even for young people that may have the gene, perhaps the high cost of modern cars coupled with their age groups collectively greater sense of environmentalism contributes to their loss of interest in cars. Also if an increasing number of young people continue to move to cities for jobs, the dream of the open road that car companies try to sell us also becomes moot.

I recently visited your neck of the woods with a trip to San Francisco where the traffic certainly dampened my enthusiasm for driving. However I was able to get away and drive some pretty cool roads to Muir Woods and Mount Tamalpais. Unfortunately it was in a Mustang V6 convertible rental. Actually it handled better than I expected.
Old 12-25-2014, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by john weires
Mike,

Perhaps there is a "driving" gene one either has or does not.
Some people are passionate about it, others, like my wife, view driving as a bore or chore.

Even for young people that may have the gene, perhaps the high cost of modern cars coupled with their age groups collectively greater sense of environmentalism contributes to their loss of interest in cars. Also if an increasing number of young people continue to move to cities for jobs, the dream of the open road that car companies try to sell us also becomes moot.

I recently visited your neck of the woods with a trip to San Francisco where the traffic certainly dampened my enthusiasm for driving. However I was able to get away and drive some pretty cool roads to Muir Woods and Mount Tamalpais. Unfortunately it was in a Mustang V6 convertible rental. Actually it handled better than I expected.
John, you make excellent points. I hate driving in SF and the urban Bay Area too, so I can actually understand why someone who had to deal with that environment on a daily basis might welcome the option for a computer to drive for them or not deal with car ownership at all. Fortunately we're about 50 miles north of the Golden Gate and there are some nice places to drive around here. If I had to commute (I don't) on Bay Area roads every day I might appreciate a self driving car, but there damn well better be an off switch!

I had a pedal car and pedal fire engine at age 3. My parents had home movies of me tearing around in them and washing them in the driveway. My Dad let me sit on his lap and steer his '55 Chevy Bel Air at age 6 or 7. I couldn't wait to learn to drive. I have the driving gene.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
John, you make excellent points. I hate driving in SF and the urban Bay Area too, so I can actually understand why someone who had to deal with that environment on a daily basis might welcome the option for a computer to drive for them or not deal with car ownership at all. Fortunately we're about 50 miles north of the Golden Gate and there are some nice places to drive around here. If I had to commute (I don't) on Bay Area roads every day I might appreciate a self driving car, but there damn well better be an off switch!

I had a pedal car and pedal fire engine at age 3. My parents had home movies of me tearing around in them and washing them in the driveway. My Dad let me sit on his lap and steer his '55 Chevy Bel Air at age 6 or 7. I couldn't wait to learn to drive. I have the driving gene.

Mike, you just gave away your age... lol
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Mike, you just gave away your age... lol
bronson, I thought it was already well known that I'm one of the relative geezers on this board. Got some good miles left though...
Old 12-26-2014, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
bronson, I thought it was already well known that I'm one of the relative geezers on this board. Got some good miles left though...


Mike, you have a wealth of insight, I have learned a great deal from you.... geezer or not. Not to worry, I'm creeping up to that geezer stage myself.
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Originally Posted by Alan C.
And we can eliminate AIDS and the population explosion by utilizing inflatable dolls.
Exactly! And that's called fading away...
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Mike,
One can't prevent the body from aging, but perhaps 911's help keep the mind young.
Old 12-26-2014, 04:32 PM
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No doubt about it, John....
Old 12-26-2014, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
bronson, I thought it was already well known that I'm one of the relative geezers on this board. Got some good miles left though...
Being a geezer has it's advantages in the GT3! Since I qualify as Geezer status
I can say that. Today, I decided to take my 31 year old son for a ride in the
new car as he is in from San Fran. We got on the entrance ramp in second gear
and I paddled through 4 gears at 8500-9k. So very soon we were running into slower cars and
I braked hard only to find a Tahoe closing on me fast.
Then the blue lights came on inside his grill.
I immediately pulled over and the Trooper came trotting up to the passenger window. He said,
"Do you know why I'm pulling you over?" To which I said,
Yes Sir! He said "I had you at 98." To which I said, "Thank you very much!"
Because it was way worse than that. And then he looked at my gray hair and
he being the same age as my son... said, I can't give you a ticket.
"The computer is down, and I can't wait for it to come back up."
"So have a nice day and slow down this beautiful new car!" Whew.
Geezer has its advantages.
Old 12-26-2014, 07:11 PM
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Where did you buy that computer jammer rubbaman?

Great looking GT3 w/silver wheels -- the best option for the money IMO.
Old 12-26-2014, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbaman
Being a geezer has it's advantages in the GT3! Since I qualify as Geezer status
I can say that. Today, I decided to take my 31 year old son for a ride in the
new car as he is in from San Fran. We got on the entrance ramp in second gear
and I paddled through 4 gears at 8500-9k. So very soon we were running into slower cars and
I braked hard only to find a Tahoe closing on me fast.
Then the blue lights came on inside his grill.
I immediately pulled over and the Trooper came trotting up to the passenger window. He said,
"Do you know why I'm pulling you over?" To which I said,
Yes Sir! He said "I had you at 98." To which I said, "Thank you very much!"
Because it was way worse than that. And then he looked at my gray hair and
he being the same age as my son... said, I can't give you a ticket.
"The computer is down, and I can't wait for it to come back up."
"So have a nice day and slow down this beautiful new car!" Whew.
Geezer has its advantages.

I guess you can say it was a Very Merry Christmas.
Old 12-26-2014, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kosmo
Around these parts, i think most people should have self driving cars!!!

Ive heard that mercedes will have a truck ready w/in 10yrs.
Clarkson demonstrated a Mercedes, C63 of there about's, on Top Gear going around some track at Full Bore where he literally crapped his pants because Mercedes had the car set on Performance and not just a an easy jaunt around the circuit. Mercedes has the technology but not the satisfactory ease of use to just put it on the cars and roll it out. That and who knows how much the technology would cost to put on the car. Sadly, the public and driver's ignorance will forbid this technology from becoming everyday technology for some long time.

Besides there are some competing alternatives to this technology from other companies with Lobbying money on the hill in DC. But from what I've seen the Mercedes implementation is the most impressive. Not embedding magnets in the road to sense and follow!
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Originally Posted by rubbaman
Being a geezer has it's advantages in the GT3! Since I qualify as Geezer status
I can say that. Today, I decided to take my 31 year old son for a ride in the
new car as he is in from San Fran. We got on the entrance ramp in second gear
and I paddled through 4 gears at 8500-9k. So very soon we were running into slower cars and
I braked hard only to find a Tahoe closing on me fast.
Then the blue lights came on inside his grill.
I immediately pulled over and the Trooper came trotting up to the passenger window. He said,
"Do you know why I'm pulling you over?" To which I said,
Yes Sir! He said "I had you at 98." To which I said, "Thank you very much!"
Because it was way worse than that. And then he looked at my gray hair and
he being the same age as my son... said, I can't give you a ticket.
"The computer is down, and I can't wait for it to come back up."
"So have a nice day and slow down this beautiful new car!" Whew.
Geezer has its advantages.
Whew indeed! Keeping your hands on the wheel where the officer can see them, no fumbling around in the car, and being polite and respectful just like you were and at least you have a chance. And apparently the gray hair doesn't hurt. Glad you escaped that one, Rob.....


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