Real life pic of why you need front lift!
11-19-2014, 09:12 PM
#61
Race Director
The lift provides guaranteed utility for at least 5 years under warranty and odds are it will last much longer. In 5 years it only has to help avoid one major incident to pay for itself, and mine has already done that for me.
In the event it does fail after the warranty expires I suspect I could get it repaired for a lot less than $10K but if not I might just write it off. It's design doesn't affect the day to day operation of the suspension and I'd be no worse off than if I hadn't bought it in the first place.
My $.04...again...
11-19-2014, 09:23 PM
#63
Nordschleife Master
What is the difference on how the new GT3 front lip is fastened to the front valence vs the 997 model, that it could cause more damage? Anyone with both vehicles have look at how they're attached?
11-19-2014, 09:57 PM
#64
Race Director
If you hit something solidly with any part of the the new lip, as opposed to just scraping the bottom, the valence will take the shock directly. I just nudged a parking bumper with the lip when I first got the car and feared I had cracked the valence from the sound. Proof that the lift isn't fool-proof (literally, in this case) and pilot involvement is still involved. The lip was dinged but fortunately was scheduled to be replaced anyway because of a fitment issue from the factory.
11-19-2014, 10:25 PM
#65
Nordschleife Master
The lip on the new car is molded to fit over a protruding "ledge" on the front valence and essentially becomes one piece with the valence. My understanding is that the 997 lip is secured by clips which can break away and is more of a separate piece.
If you hit something solidly with any part of the the new lip, as opposed to just scraping the bottom, the valence will take the shock directly. I just nudged a parking bumper with the lip when I first got the car and feared I had cracked the valence from the sound. Proof that the lift isn't fool-proof (literally, in this case) and pilot involvement is still involved. The lip was dinged but fortunately was scheduled to be replaced anyway because of a fitment issue from the factory.
If you hit something solidly with any part of the the new lip, as opposed to just scraping the bottom, the valence will take the shock directly. I just nudged a parking bumper with the lip when I first got the car and feared I had cracked the valence from the sound. Proof that the lift isn't fool-proof (literally, in this case) and pilot involvement is still involved. The lip was dinged but fortunately was scheduled to be replaced anyway because of a fitment issue from the factory.
11-19-2014, 11:35 PM
#67
Rennlist Member
Instead you'll be grinding that nose into the pavement. This car is low, really low. If you ever drive where you have speed bumps, parking garages, drainage curbs, or steep sudden inclines, you will want the lift. If it is always level, you don't mind doing the angle approach (assuming there is room and no traffic), and you live in Kansas, then by all means, skip the lift.
11-19-2014, 11:53 PM
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Instead you'll be grinding that nose into the pavement. This car is low, really low. If you ever drive where you have speed bumps, parking garages, drainage curbs, or steep sudden inclines, you will want the lift. If it is always level, you don't mind doing the angle approach (assuming there is room and no traffic), and you live in Kansas, then by all means, skip the lift.
11-19-2014, 11:57 PM
#69
Rennlist Member
Yes I've done that too it's called driving a sports car on the street. Bottom line is like most everyone here I enjoy driving sports cars and unfortunately there will be times in unfamiliar roads you can will end up scraping. The nice thing about the GT3 is that front lower is a replaceable part. Again, this is just my preference I can do without the lift option and don't mind replacing part of the inevitable happens. But great option for porsche to include for those who want it.
11-20-2014, 12:02 AM
#70
Instructor
The engine or gearbox or electronics or any number of other extremely expensive parts could fail after the warranty period expires. That prospect hasn't kept me from buying the car or, for that matter, a bunch of other stuff that might perhaps someday fail and be expensive to repair. Sheesh.... The lift provides guaranteed utility for at least 5 years under warranty and odds are it will last much longer. In 5 years it only has to help avoid one major incident to pay for itself, and mine has already done that for me. In the event it does fail after the warranty expires I suspect I could get it repaired for a lot less than $10K but if not I might just write it off. It's design doesn't affect the day to day operation of the suspension and I'd be no worse off than if I hadn't bought it in the first place. My $.04...again...
Thank you for sharing your extensive knowledge!!
11-20-2014, 01:44 AM
#71
liftmania
You guys are all debating the lift issue seemingly from the vantage point of stock ride height. Who amongst us tracks a GT3 at stock ride height, I wonder?
I don't personally know anyone that does. I have always had them lowered with appropriate camber adjustment for an aggressive street/track set up. The lift was a great option for me on my 7.2 and I wished for one on my 6.2 as I watched my cup lip in the mirror flopping down the freeway or my stock lip shearing off in a hotel parking lot on a speedbump despite the extremely slow speed and 45-degree angle-of-attack, etc.
I don't personally know anyone that does. I have always had them lowered with appropriate camber adjustment for an aggressive street/track set up. The lift was a great option for me on my 7.2 and I wished for one on my 6.2 as I watched my cup lip in the mirror flopping down the freeway or my stock lip shearing off in a hotel parking lot on a speedbump despite the extremely slow speed and 45-degree angle-of-attack, etc.
11-20-2014, 02:57 AM
#72
You guys are all debating the lift issue seemingly from the vantage point of stock ride height. Who amongst us tracks a GT3 at stock ride height, I wonder?
I don't personally know anyone that does. I have always had them lowered with appropriate camber adjustment for an aggressive street/track set up. The lift was a great option for me on my 7.2 and I wished for one on my 6.2 as I watched my cup lip in the mirror flopping down the freeway or my stock lip shearing off in a hotel parking lot on a speedbump despite the extremely slow speed and 45-degree angle-of-attack, etc.
I don't personally know anyone that does. I have always had them lowered with appropriate camber adjustment for an aggressive street/track set up. The lift was a great option for me on my 7.2 and I wished for one on my 6.2 as I watched my cup lip in the mirror flopping down the freeway or my stock lip shearing off in a hotel parking lot on a speedbump despite the extremely slow speed and 45-degree angle-of-attack, etc.
11-21-2014, 01:55 AM
#73
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