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Old 10-27-2014, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Macca
Endless are awesome pads. I use the MX72 street/track compound on my 993 and if bedded in properly they are silent. They perform and last very well. I have just ordered the same compound for the 991 GT3 and these will be ready mid November (the factory in Japan is running off their first 991 GT3 fitments pads as we speak). The Me22 & Me20 are the perfect compound for guys like Sam & Max whos cars see more track miles than street miles. They would be most similar to R29 but infact superior. Endless fluid is equivalent to SFR Castrol but cheaper and is factory fill for GT3 RSR/Cup in European series....you cant miss them they are blue - this is what they look like fitted to my 993...
Good Stuff!

Also Endless has an endurance compound that lasts forever a bit better bite than ME20 but costs twice as much as ME20s.

Endless RF650 fluid is a bit better than Castrol and much cheaper. Definitely beats Motul 600 or 660.
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http://www.torquebrakefluid.com/comp...ke_fluids.html

Some interesting lab testing stats there (I have no interest in Torque fluid....but it's their page)
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Originally Posted by Macca
Endless are awesome pads. I use the MX72 street/track compound on my 993 and if bedded in properly they are silent. They perform and last very well. I have just ordered the same compound for the 991 GT3 and these will be ready mid November (the factory in Japan is running off their first 991 GT3 fitments pads as we speak). The Me22 & Me20 are the perfect compound for guys like Sam & Max whos cars see more track miles than street miles. They would be most similar to R29 but infact superior. Endless fluid is equivalent to SFR Castrol but cheaper and is factory fill for GT3 RSR/Cup in European series....you cant miss them they are blue - this is what they look like fitted to my 993...
Hi Macca,
What specific upgrades have you done to your suspension if you don't mind me asking?
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Hi Jerry.

Im not sure if you are talking about my 993 or my 991 GT3. The 993 is beyond RS spec. The suspension is entirely monoball with solid suspension mounts, RS ARBs with powerflex bushes, Rennline monoballs and camber plates and PSS10 shocks, Turbo+RS big brake upgrade with Endless MX72 pads, SFR fluid and steel braided lines. There are also new lower rear control arms with RS/Cup monoball inserts, Warlord front A arm bushes for the front A arms and a fairly aggressive geo with lightweight OZ HLT wheels and sticky C70 compound Z221 Hankook R comps.

The 991 GT3 has no improvements other than a new geo taking the camber to the max negative available with the factory top mounts without ruining the 9"30' factory front caster (which is important). I have Endless RF650 fluid and MX72 pads arriving for it in Nov. Im looking for a braided brake line solution off the shelf but there dont appear to be any available yet unless someone can confirm otherwise?
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Looking forward to Endless pads as an option.

Originally Posted by Macca
Im looking for a braided brake line solution off the shelf but there dont appear to be any available yet unless someone can confirm otherwise?
I got my brake lines from FVD – great upgrade:

http://www.fvd.de/us/en/Porsche-0/99...ake_lines.html
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Meteor. Thanks for the lead! Were those available ex USA? Also are they a direct bolt up solution? If so thats fantastic as Ive been unable to find something to date...
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ooops. No worries I see answers to both those questions are contained within the FVD listing. They look TUV approved but I need to have "Dot" approved in NZ so I may have to ask FVD unless you may know if they are Dot approved?
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Originally Posted by Macca
Meteor. Thanks for the lead! Were those available ex USA? Also are they a direct bolt up solution? If so thats fantastic as Ive been unable to find something to date...
I got them next-day delivered to Canada no problem, I’m sure they will ship anywhere. My shop installed them quickly with no issues (pretty sure they are direct-fit). I’ve had them on the car for over a month and pedal feel is greatly improved!
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Originally Posted by Macca
I may have to ask FVD unless you may know if they are Dot approved?
Sorry - not sure about that.
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Thanks mate. Perfect. Ill get a set underway...
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Max, they make endless in 991 GT3 sizes? Nice! I was hoping to avoid Pagid if I could. How much are the endless?
Endless has MX72 and N05U available. N05U is a slightly updated version of ME20 AFAIK. That's what I'm getting. Prices are about $900 for N05U and $750 for MX72.
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Originally Posted by 997TTMeteor
Looking forward to Endless pads as an option.



I got my brake lines from FVD – great upgrade:

http://www.fvd.de/us/en/Porsche-0/99...ake_lines.html
I bought them for the 991S. I wonder if they'll work on the GT3? Also, I never found them necessary. The fronts are already a metal line, and I never had brake problem, despite having a very heavy foot on the track.
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Originally Posted by 24Chromium
I don't know for sure, but I believe Endless is only a pad manufacturer. They are a Japanese company and don't seem to have made much headway in getting into the pro racing ranks. In fact, one of their application engineers I met has now defected to Brembo. He said he was disillusioned with their marketing strategy. He also tells me that Brembo is now putting out some fantastic new race pads, but I've yet to try them.
This is accurate. I've talked to him and he was very helpful in describing the differences to both endless and pfd compared to the new brembo compounds. I'm currently using PFC08 and pretty happy with them. I have some more to burn through but will try either Brembo pads or Endless next. I do have a set of Brembo TS20 pads and they are very good as a hybrid track/street pad (at my level, intermediate... )

That said, I am running the Brembo type3 HD (they have 2 sizes in 380mm fronts for 997 cars, unsure on 991 fitment) and they almost look like after 12 days that and according to shop/brembo there is a lot of life in them. Time to replace is when the cracks are really bold or close to touching edges According to my data I over brake :-) So I'm pretty hard on them.
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Originally Posted by MaxLTV
Endless has MX72 and N05U available. N05U is a slightly updated version of ME20 AFAIK. That's what I'm getting. Prices are about $900 for N05U and $750 for MX72.
Thanks, Max! If those prices are for all 4 corners, it's pretty good. If it's just for the fronts, that hurts.

Originally Posted by Spyerx
That said, I am running the Brembo type3 HD (they have 2 sizes in 380mm fronts for 997 cars, unsure on 991 fitment) and they almost look like after 12 days that and according to shop/brembo there is a lot of life in them. Time to replace is when the cracks are really bold or close to touching edges According to my data I over brake :-) So I'm pretty hard on them.
Yeah, I don't know why my rotors fell apart so quickly. Proper break-in and cool down. Maybe the multiple Laguna days killed them? I have 2 other friends running Brembo type 3 (one on a 997.2 GT3 and and other on a 997.2 TTS), and their rotors look like they'll only survive 12 days as well. We all got them around the same time. Maybe a bad batch, maybe the pads we're using (PFC), I dunno.... We'll see how long my second set lasts.

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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Thanks, Max! If those prices are for all 4 corners, it's pretty good. If it's just for the fronts, that hurts.

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