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neanicu 08-07-2014 04:59 PM

Sad news : Ferrari M458-T(Turbo)
 
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" Ferrari M458-T to Debut at Geneva 2015

After waiting 26 years to make a turbocharged comeback, Ferrari will waste no time following up the California T with another forced-induction Prancing Horse in the form of the 2015 Ferrari

M458-T, which Car magazine is reporting will be the name of Ferrari's latest creation. Essentially a facelifted 458 Italia, the new model will come powered by a reworked version of the California T’s 3.9-liter twin-turbo V8 developing 670 horsepower, so over 100 horses more than Ferrari’s “entry-level” model. As well as a new powerplant, the refreshed Italia will see some significant design changes to accommodate the turbochargers, new intercoolers and improved braking system. It will also receive restyled bumpers and LED lights as well as enhanced aerodynamics.

The M458-T will come fitted with a Harman-Kardon infotainment system as per the Cali T, in addition to a reversing camera.

Set to debut at the 2015 Geneva Motor Show, look forward to seeing and hearing more of the refreshed 458 Italia in the coming weeks and months. "


http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/7...a-2015-7721886

John@Fabspeed 08-07-2014 05:08 PM

I personally think that this is pretty great, though it would be nice if they did keep a NA model available for the hardcore group.

Jimmy-D 08-07-2014 05:29 PM

Is this a twin or tri-turbo?/

SamFromTX 08-07-2014 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Evan@Fabspeed (Post 11561286)
I personally think that this is pretty great, though it would be nice if they did keep a NA model available for the hardcore group.

There is no question in regards to performance etc but since I was a kid, the sound of a Ferrari was unmatched. Difficult to let go... I hope they keep a NA version as you said.

neanicu 08-07-2014 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy-D (Post 11561333)
Is this a twin or tri-turbo?/


It's in the above text Jimmy : supposedly 3.9 L twin Turbo.



Originally Posted by neanicu (Post 11561255)
...the new model will come powered by a reworked version of the California T’s 3.9-liter twin-turbo V8 developing 670 horsepower, so over 100 horses more than Ferrari’s " entry-level " model


frayed 08-07-2014 08:20 PM

This is not breaking news, but it is sad news indeed.

The Cali lost something with the incorporation of hairdryers. The 458 will as well.

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Oh and the 911 is to follow as well with turbos. That wail of 9k redline we all (or soon) get to enjoy in our 991 GT3s will also go away.

neanicu 08-07-2014 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Evan@Fabspeed (Post 11561286)
I personally think that this is pretty great, though it would be nice if they did keep a NA model available for the hardcore group.


It will be great for business for sure! It will probably sound like s**t and you guys will make it sound like a proper sports car and tripling your Ferrari exhaust customers in the process. ;)

Billy Wyatt 08-07-2014 08:28 PM

All i know is the twin turbo F40 sounds pretty awesome???

Terrence 08-07-2014 09:02 PM

Probably won't have a 9000 redline anymore which is a shame. Also won't sound the same as it is now. Such is "progress".

LSs1Power 08-07-2014 10:58 PM

Blame Mclaren 650S, the 458 had no other option to compete against that monster in terms of performance without resorting to Turbochargers.

tcsracing1 08-07-2014 10:59 PM

so where does the speciale sit with this new model?

ipse dixit 08-07-2014 11:04 PM

I'm not sure why this is sad news.

I'd rather have car companies evolve and adapt, than have governments legislate away our passion and toys.

996FLT6 08-07-2014 11:37 PM

The 458 series don't sound all that great on track. Kinda we

996FLT6 08-07-2014 11:38 PM

Weird. Even the 458 challenge didn't sound all that great. Mike

Zeus 08-07-2014 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by LSs1Power (Post 11562039)
Blame Mclaren 650S, the 458 had no other option to compete against that monster in terms of performance without resorting to Turbochargers.

This.


Originally Posted by Evan@Fabspeed (Post 11561286)
I personally think that this is pretty great, though it would be nice if they did keep a NA model available for the hardcore group.

And this. Big time.


Originally Posted by ipse dixit (Post 11562048)
I'm not sure why this is sad news.

I'd rather have car companies evolve and adapt, than have governments legislate away our passion and toys.

I'm glad we have what we do for the time being. As sure as death & taxes, governments and their lemmings will continue to add rule and regs ad infinitum. Heck, I throw up a little in my mouth everytime I think about just the few ounces the mandatory backup camera's will add to new cars come 2017....

Porsche should fight the trend with the GT3, since the 960 will probably fight the power wars with the 458 & 650S.

From what I understand, quite a few countries tax much more heavily if your engine is bigger than 4.0 liters. I suspect that is why Ferrari is going with a turbo'd 3.9 instead of turboing the 4.5. Mclaren is sticking with their Recardo sourced 3.8 until at least 2020. Sad.


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