911 base vs gt3
06-30-2014, 01:30 PM
#31
And I thought we were just messin' with you about color! I had a 997.2 C2S with PDK, the sport chassis and exhaust and the lightweight sport buckets. The GT3 is a BIG step up all around from that car. Your 991 S would have been faster than my 997 but still Its not in the same league as the GT3. If you're that conflicted maybe you should pass although I'd wager once you get that GT3 ride you'll regret not getting one. Not much help, I know... 
I'm going to get the GT3 (until I waffle again...and it WILL happen-lol). I can always get another TTS. I'd prob. prefer a coupe anyway.
Your assessment of the diff. helps!
...To show you how nuts I am I was just sitting here browsing new boats thinking I'll just do that again.
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06-30-2014, 02:12 PM
#32
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BIG HELP-Both of you!-lol!
Man, I REALLY need to find someone to give me a ride in the GT3. I am soooo having second thoughts about giving up the power of my beautiful TTS cab. My concern is that everyone seems to say that the car is glorious "when you get it wound up". Is it THAT similar to a regular C2S at lower speeds/revs? Mine was way to low on power. I don't want to step don but i DO want that visceral experience.......see, I am a neurotic mess!
FYI-a buddy of mine described it as a "slightly faster C2S" and when you look at the stats it makes you wonder...
75+ extra HP
C2S weighs LESS (in both manual and PDK variants)
Same TQ
HHHHmmmmm.....will one of you PLEASE bring your GT3 to GA?
Man, I REALLY need to find someone to give me a ride in the GT3. I am soooo having second thoughts about giving up the power of my beautiful TTS cab. My concern is that everyone seems to say that the car is glorious "when you get it wound up". Is it THAT similar to a regular C2S at lower speeds/revs? Mine was way to low on power. I don't want to step don but i DO want that visceral experience.......see, I am a neurotic mess!
FYI-a buddy of mine described it as a "slightly faster C2S" and when you look at the stats it makes you wonder...
75+ extra HP
C2S weighs LESS (in both manual and PDK variants)
Same TQ
HHHHmmmmm.....will one of you PLEASE bring your GT3 to GA?
If you enjoy the low-end grunt, and head snapping acceleration from idle, then I think you will not enjoy the GT3. It's just not that type of car. Perhaps you might want to wait for the 991 GT2, if they ever make one, which is supposed to be a FI engine setup.
Or just go bonkers, and get the C7 Z06, which has 450 lb-ft at idle.
06-30-2014, 02:25 PM
#33
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Cold,
If you enjoy the low-end grunt, and head snapping acceleration from idle, then I think you will not enjoy the GT3. It's just not that type of car. Perhaps you might want to wait for the 991 GT2, if they ever make one, which is supposed to be a FI engine setup.
Or just go bonkers, and get the C7 Z06, which has 450 lb-ft at idle.
If you enjoy the low-end grunt, and head snapping acceleration from idle, then I think you will not enjoy the GT3. It's just not that type of car. Perhaps you might want to wait for the 991 GT2, if they ever make one, which is supposed to be a FI engine setup.
Or just go bonkers, and get the C7 Z06, which has 450 lb-ft at idle.
06-30-2014, 02:47 PM
#34
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BIG HELP-Both of you!-lol!
Man, I REALLY need to find someone to give me a ride in the GT3. I am soooo having second thoughts about giving up the power of my beautiful TTS cab. My concern is that everyone seems to say that the car is glorious "when you get it wound up". Is it THAT similar to a regular C2S at lower speeds/revs? Mine was way to low on power. I don't want to step don but i DO want that visceral experience.......see, I am a neurotic mess!
FYI-a buddy of mine described it as a "slightly faster C2S" and when you look at the stats it makes you wonder...
75+ extra HP
C2S weighs LESS (in both manual and PDK variants)
Same TQ
HHHHmmmmm.....will one of you PLEASE bring your GT3 to GA?
Man, I REALLY need to find someone to give me a ride in the GT3. I am soooo having second thoughts about giving up the power of my beautiful TTS cab. My concern is that everyone seems to say that the car is glorious "when you get it wound up". Is it THAT similar to a regular C2S at lower speeds/revs? Mine was way to low on power. I don't want to step don but i DO want that visceral experience.......see, I am a neurotic mess!
FYI-a buddy of mine described it as a "slightly faster C2S" and when you look at the stats it makes you wonder...
75+ extra HP
C2S weighs LESS (in both manual and PDK variants)
Same TQ
HHHHmmmmm.....will one of you PLEASE bring your GT3 to GA?
06-30-2014, 03:22 PM
#35
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I had been seriously looking into a "rebuilt" GT3 and when I was in Overland Park a little while back, I took a slight 1/2 day excursion to check one out. Bad idea all around, as it just made me want one even more. And then took another test drive in Riverside, another bad idea.
So now I'm just resigned to waiting for the next iteration of the GT3 ...
06-30-2014, 04:08 PM
#36
I actually went from a 2009 997 C4S PDK to a 2011 997 GTS (6 speed) to a 991 Carrera S cab (PDK), to a 2014 GT3 and the GT3 smokes all of them...very little similarity to the Carrera S power. The GT3 is a rocket. Much more fun than a Turbo S (to me). You will not find yourself wanting on the power. Put it in sport and it is a monster...always in the perfect gear and that engine likes to rev. Amazing car, best I have ever driven, and I have driven a lot of really fun cars. Just my 2 cents.
06-30-2014, 04:12 PM
#37
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Interesting. Thx for the feedback. Much appreciated. So do you have some seat time in the TTS? It is just crazy fast BUT it does miss some of the involvement and feels a bit soft at times. I like the scream of the NA. And yeah, I'm one of those who drives in sport+ all the time.
06-30-2014, 04:38 PM
#38
That sounds just like him. Sorry to hear that. I always found your posts to be very well written and you to be very knowledgeable with first-hand experience of the cars you write about. Stealth has a way of being very condescending. He and I have had our own battles. I just chose to have them over PM because I know they freak out when you post them publicly. Sorry to hear it.
Honestly, most people over there that comment on the 991 have not driven the car so I just sort of overlook their comments.
Yeah, I am getting the GT3.
Honestly, most people over there that comment on the 991 have not driven the car so I just sort of overlook their comments.
Yeah, I am getting the GT3.
I can not wait to see your GT3! Are you keeping the TTS and adding the GT3 or...? I can not imagine you giving up all that torque. I drove the new Targa today, and it was a sweet ride, but nothing beats the Turbo power.
06-30-2014, 04:59 PM
#39
I am just surprised they did not even contact me once about the whole incident, or answer any of my emails.
I can not wait to see your GT3! Are you keeping the TTS and adding the GT3 or...? I can not imagine you giving up all that torque. I drove the new Targa today, and it was a sweet ride, but nothing beats the Turbo power.
I can not wait to see your GT3! Are you keeping the TTS and adding the GT3 or...? I can not imagine you giving up all that torque. I drove the new Targa today, and it was a sweet ride, but nothing beats the Turbo power.
I am trading the TTS. I figure I'll drive the GT3 and if I like it I keep it. If not, I trade it for the facelifted TTS that could be out as early as next fall.
06-30-2014, 05:04 PM
#40
Yes, TTS is fast - reminded me of my Panamera Turbo, in terms of straight line speed...relentless...incredible...but a turbo feels different than NA, and if you drive in Sport + mode, you will LOVE the sport mode in the GT3. Amazing car. Totally different - you will be very pleased.
06-30-2014, 05:49 PM
#41
Interesting, I was talking to my dealer today and he said the new facelifted Turbo will be out a year or so after the new facelifted 911 C2S and etc. He said probably as a 2016 or 2017 model. He and I could be wrong though.
06-30-2014, 06:12 PM
#42
That could be absolutely correct. I am going to the Geneva auto show in March and will prob. be able to learn more then.