Jimmy-D

I wanted to post this thread to kick off Memorial Day weekend. At this point we all should know around when are cars will be available and every one must decide for themselves if they are going to stick with their car. So, in the interim, I figured this could be a positive debate to have fun with this weekend when you have some downtime. Now, a Buddy and I had this debate the other day. Is the GT3/991 GT3 a "true" Supercar. Notice I list both the GT3 and the 991 GT3 because dependent on what you use to consider/calculate what a Supercar is then- this is important. Is it exclusivity, price, 0-60mph - 1/4 mile figures, ect.??. I will not begin this thread with my opinion only because this way the thread starter does not begin this leaning it to one side or the other.

Fadi1

I like to think of it as MY supercar for sure. Naturally aspired engine, loud (not enough), large wing and very capable. CD clocked it at 3s flat from 0-60. That's pretty darn good. Besides this is as much as I can afford. I hate to compare it to the Ferraries and Lambos because they're in a different league.

Maverick787

I cheated so the answer is yes, and I would agree based on the performance and they are hard to get!

supercar is one of the highest classes for cars. These cars are typically the best of the best, and are in extremely limited quantities. Supercars are exotic cars, and that means they have great style, as well as incredible performance. These cars are among the fastest in the world, and have the best sport handling out there. A supercar has a certain mystique associated with it. They are usually limited to a certain amount of vehicles built, that way there is some type of exclusivity to own one. Not only is the price usually in the hundreds of thousands, but it becomes a status symbol to own one of these cars.

The most expensive sports cars in the world that you are used to hearing about are the quintessential supercars. A Ferrari GT, Audi R8, Lamborghini Murcielago, the Pagani Zonda, the list goes on, but these all qualify as being supercars. They all share many similar features, but their engines are where they truly make the cut. Many of these cars have the horsepower of three or more cars put together. Some of them have horsepower numbers higher than 1,000. V8 engines are nothing compared to the normal V10 and even V12 engines that supercars usually have.

Supercar price ranges can be from $100,000 to more than a million. An Audi R8 would run you around $130,000. The Lamborghini Murcielago will run you into the $400,000s, while the Pagani Zonda will cost a little under that. Either way, these cars are extremely rare and for a select few. If you want to get a taste of what these cars can do, there are many exotic car rental places that will let you drive these for a day or two, provided you pay a very high price of around $1,000 a day.

neanicu

An Audi R8 is a Supercar to you?! The GT3 is more of a " Supercar " than the R8 if you ask me...
But the truth is neither of the 2 achieve the Supercar status IMO.
Maybe the GT3 can be considered a Supercar since now they've invented the term " Hypercars ".
Next will have " Spacecars " , " Cosmiccars " or " Universecars ".

tcsracing1

All depends on ones definition of "supercar".

Typically, a mid engine ferrari, lambo, McLaren and anything else that has a shape of something Batman would drive is considered by the public as a "supercar".

Where does one draw the line?

A ferrari California. Is that a supercar because it is a Ferrari?
Would the Corvette Z06 with its staggering performance be considered a supercar?
The new 991GT3 is based on the carrera body so is a Carrera a Supercar?

My RS in bright orange with big wing and loud exhaust attracts attention as much as any supercar so does that put it in the league of supercar?

Personally, the less practical, more expensive and radical shape of a car makes it a "Supercar" in my books.
I think the 911 will always be practical so right of the bat it cannot be a Supercar.
It is a Super car to own however

CGT and 918 are supercars. 960 will be a supercar.

Jimmy-D

Okay. I do consider the R8 a Supercar but the V10 not the V8. The reason for this is that I believe a super car needs to have some very good numbers to post along with its exotic looks..
Now, I have always felt that the GT3 is a supercar because of its exclusivity( limited number) but I was hesitant because it never had good 0 -60 numbers that I think prohibited it from joining the club. But, it has always been a tough argument for me because I see more Ferraris(definitely a Supercar) that I ever do GT3s on the road. The 991 GT3 in my mind has made it to Supercar status. Not only because of it continued exclusivity but because it now has the numbers to accompany it. It pretty much now can keep up with and probably beat the Ferrari 458 italia(not Speciale) to 0-60mph.The RS I keep out of this argument because to me it has always really been a track car not a street car. Also, other than maybe the Turbo S; I never really considered any of the other 911 variants a Supercar

Bluehinder

If you have to ask, then the answer is no. And actually, the answer is no.

Cyrek

200 mph+ = SC......

Jimmy-D

Bluehinder - Just to clarify my intention. I am posting this to have some fun and create a new thread so we can stop driving ourselves crazy while we all know our time frames for our replacements and hear others' point of view.

I do not need to ask with what I know which is the 991 GT3 is a supercar. The previous GT3s never hit my own personal criteria. Actually, no other Porsche is a super car accept also the 918 now.- for my criteria.

no reason not to have a little fun

Bluehinder

Jimmy-D, intention understood. Answer is still no.

Among the criteria that people list for a car to be a supercar, one is having to ask if it's a supercar. It obviously is not a supercar, just a good fast car at a good price point.

Ronan

No. In the eyes of the general public its a 911 that looks like all the other 911s. It lacks the unique distinctiveness of a super car. Similarly AMGs,BMW M5s etc are not super cars for similar reasons.
( I love the GT3 by the way, but would not class it as a super car).

kfmcmahon

"Elite"Sports cars ------ "Super" cars

GT3 ----- 918
458 ----- LaFerrari
Huracan ------ Aventador
MP4-12C/650S ------ P1
Z06/ZR1 ------ Pagani Huayra
R8 V10 ------- Koenigsegg Agera
Viper ------Bugatti Veyron
GT-R ------LFA

just my humble opinion.

QQQ1970

+1

Jimmy-D

These are all interesting perspectives - that why I asked.

rodsky

I'd agree with this..

I don't think any 911 variant qualifies to be a supercar.

Its not about numbers. A Nissan GT-R would then be one - and clearly isn't. It can "out perform" many supercars (albeit older ones) - like an F40.