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Old 04-15-2014, 12:53 PM
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fwiw - My 2015 991 order (not GT3) has a June build date.
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Does anyone know if any 2015 allocations that were not originally late 2014s? Or have they pushed those off indefinitely?
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There have been 2015 allocations granted/announced to any Dealers only 2014s being rescheduled. Any Dealer, at least here in the US, who says they have "true" 2015 allocations is playing a dangerous game. They will not be announced until the 4th quarter and some anticipate the 2014/15 run will be cut back
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CORRECTION

There have been NO 2015 allocations granted/announced to any Dealers only 2014s being rescheduled. Any Dealer, at least here in the US, who says they have "true" 2015 allocations is playing a dangerous game. They will not be announced until the 4th quarter and some anticipate the 2014/15 run will be cut back
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actually i think there will be quite a few 2015 allocations from those 2014s that cancel.

I'm probably not going to make it to the end so my spot will probably become available.

I know of at least 4 2015 allocations from cancellations.

So they didn't get new allocations they just got their old ones back!

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Old 04-15-2014, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
CORRECTION

There have been NO 2015 allocations granted/announced to any Dealers only 2014s being rescheduled. Any Dealer, at least here in the US, who says they have "true" 2015 allocations is playing a dangerous game. They will not be announced until the 4th quarter and some anticipate the 2014/15 run will be cut back
I am somewhat confused. Last summer Porsche announced dealer slots through the end of 2014. For example, my dealer was told 1 of his 4 slots would be in Q4 of 2014 ( a MY 2015 obviously). Now, it is true that those later slots are planned and not actually yet in the system to build. Unless Porsche takes those slots away, they will turn into hard allocations.
Old 04-15-2014, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Macca
Eduardo. Fantastic email. Your memory is excellent. Your knowledge too. Makes some of my communications look very clumsy!

I believe the current GT3 dilemma may have played havoc with Porsches calender for that model. The next "scratch" produced GT3s are likely to be MY 2015 as you say which could come as soon as late May but my suspicion is June. However I would be surprised in light of current circumstances Porsche continue to produce the GT3 in volume beyond October. The 991 GT3RS timetable is rumoured to have slipped. Again its essential both of these models complete their production before further changes in Euro emissions compliance regulations. German auto industry bought a rain cheque (largely arguing on the basis of GFC economics and the final revival of the Euro auto industry) but I suspect Europe is returning to form quicker than anticipated, Euro car manufacturers are again posting significant profits, and legislation may be back with a vengeance in 2015. Its very hard to understand if Porsche have the fortitude to continue with a thirsty NA engine for GT3 in future model generations, but I sure hope so. The good thing about the volume Macan is it will be lowering their product mix emissions average rating...
Thanks Macca. Good luck with task you have undertaken with Sierra Mike/Capt. Mojo re: the 'Action Group'. There is always strength in numbers. And please keep us posted on what you hear from your sources regarding what will happen to gt3 production past October 2014. It's all going to be very interesting.

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Thank you for your insight--appreciated
You are welcome!

Originally Posted by GTEE3
^this is what happened with the delivery of my '11RS in May 2010. I essentially got a MY'10 equipped car w/ a MY'11 MSRP/VIN #.
Yes, I remember well. I have a friend that got one of the last US spec MY2010 gt3 RS's in April 2010 and couldn't believe that a MY2011 gt3 RS arrived a few weeks later at his dealership...in May of 2010! I myself got one of the last MY2012 Boxster Spyders that came out of the production line in Zuffenhausen and it was built in the last two weeks of July 2011! Think about that - the end of a MY2012 model production in July of 2011...not 2012! The factory has a wide latitude when it comes to start & finish of Model Years!

Originally Posted by Badknees
fwiw - My 2015 991 order (not GT3) has a June build date.
Correct. US dealers already have confirmation in hand that some of their customers' MY2015 991's will start to be build in June 2014. The earliest MY2015 991 (a Targa) my local dealer has confirmation for is scheduled for production in the first week of June, 2014! That is only in 7 weeks time.

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Old 04-15-2014, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Z356
That's a different question. We are talking about when the MY2015 will start...for the entire 991 model range, including the gt3 model. That is coming sooner than many of you think.

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So Eduardo, are you saying you think there is a chance that my September GT3 allocation that was pushed from MY2014 to MY2015 which was supposed to be delivered to me on May 9th may get built sooner than September for an October delivery?
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MCSMCS1 - What I am saying is the Dealers last year received their 2014 allocations that had a span from 3rd/4th quarter 2013 thru end of 2014. These were their 2014 allocations. My dealer got like (7) based on their percentage of 911 sales in the US plus for any 918 Spyder they sold those Customers got first right on Gt3 allocations, as well, but they were, in addition, to their designated allocation. I heard some 918 owners said not interested so dealer took it, some said will take it but will sell it back to you for a quick profit, and some took the cars. Now, some of the 2014 allocations have been reclassified to 2015 but they have yet to receive their offiicial 2015 allocation which will be some time 4th quarter for delivery after the New Year.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
MCSMCS1 - What I am saying is the Dealers last year received their 2014 allocations that had a span from 3rd/4th quarter 2013 thru end of 2014. These were their 2014 allocations. My dealer got like (7) based on their percentage of 911 sales in the US plus for any 918 Spyder they sold those Customers got first right on Gt3 allocations, as well, but they were, in addition, to their designated allocation. I heard some 918 owners said not interested so dealer took it, some said will take it but will sell it back to you for a quick profit, and some took the cars. Now, some of the 2014 allocations have been reclassified to 2015 but they have yet to receive their offiicial 2015 allocation which will be some time 4th quarter for delivery after the New Year.
Got it. So when does my dealer's original 2014 allocation for Q4 2014 get built now? Some delay clearly
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Originally Posted by rubbaman
So Eduardo, are you saying you think there is a chance that my September GT3 allocation that was pushed from MY2014 to MY2015 which was supposed to be delivered to me on May 9th may get built sooner than September for an October delivery?
No. As you stated, you had a late MY2014 gt3 allocation that was rescheduled for September as a MY2015. There are many other 991 gt3 customers from Europe, ROW & the Americas that were LONG AGO SCHEDULED for early MY2015 production. These orders are going to proceed as planned! Those of you - both in US and ROW - that got their late MY2014 'bumped' or 'eliminated' due to the well-know technical problems & delays will be plugged-in the MY2015 production line as space permits! Your car was 'plugged' in the September line. That is your gt3's fate and I doubt it will change. If I were you, I would consider myself lucky with that 'later' gt3 production date...and I'll tell you why:

There will be 785 gt3 engines that will be built in late April/early May that will test the 'metal' on the new motors! Then there will be motors built for those MY2014 remaining to be 'completed' and hanging around in Zuffenhausen since they were already started...but never finished. Finally, there will be the gt3 motors being built for the June, July and August gt3 production that will precede yours! If there is going to be a problem with the new gt3 motor, it will probably happen & be corrected long before you gt3 rolls down the line in September!

The only problem I see with your particular build in September, Rubbaman, is that the Cannstatter Wasen Beer Festival will start in the Stuttgart area on September 26th! God help you if your gt3 is not done by then and your car gets to be assembled by the folks in the late factory shift at Zuffenhausen! Most of Porsche production folks are notorious for gathering promptly at noon at Bad Cannstatt and filling up with five beers before they head to Zuffenhausen for the day's work*!

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*Ne vous inquiétez pas! I am just making this up...it's only two beers!

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Originally Posted by Z356
No. As you stated, you had a late MY2014 gt3 allocation that was rescheduled for September as a MY2015. There are many other 991 gt3 customers from Europe, ROW & the Americas that were LONG AGO SCHEDULED for early MY2015 production. These orders are going to proceed as planned! Those of you - both in US and ROW - that got their late MY2014 'bumped' or 'eliminated' due to the well-know technical problems & delays will be plugged-in the MY2015 production line as space permits!.....
I sincerely hope you are wrong on this. I would expect the same priority be granted to those who had their 2014 builds bumped to 2015 be put at the head of the 2015 line now, much along the lines of what Porsche is saying they will do with the 2014 engine replacements; first in, first out...

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Z356 - That is hysterical but I do not know if you were trying to be funny(could be truth to them spending too much time at the Festival). Question - Do you believe that the total number of 2014/15 GT3s that Porsche was originally planning to produce will be reduced overall from their original plan because of the issues and consequent delays? Saying, If the US were to have received say 600 cars for 2014/15 that it could now be less?
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Originally Posted by Conekilr
I sincerely hope you are wrong on this. I would expect the same priority be granted to those who had their 2014 builds bumped to 2015 be put at the head of the 2015 line now, much along the lines of what Porsche is saying they will do with the 2014 engine replacements; first in, first out...

Eduardo is mistaken on this. I am a 2014 VIN car which got halted on Mar 20(V270) and Porsche is now saying I will get my engine on August 29. I am one of the last 2014s. Then will come the 2015s beginning with the April and May guys that got pushed to MY 2015. They are scheduled for Spetember forward. Porsche isn't going to produce a 2015 in June before finishing my darn 2014 in August. Further, the 2015s for June on are not going to jump the line in front of the April and May cars pushed to 2015 cars. Let's get serious, everyone will experience the delay.

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Originally Posted by Z356
No. As you stated, you had a late MY2014 gt3 allocation that was rescheduled for September as a MY2015. There are many other 991 gt3 customers from Europe, ROW & the Americas that were LONG AGO SCHEDULED for early MY2015 production. These orders are going to proceed as planned! Those of you - both in US and ROW - that got their late MY2014 'bumped' or 'eliminated' due to the well-know technical problems & delays will be plugged-in the MY2015 production line as space permits!
Eduardo, you never cease to amaze me with the depth and breadth of the information you possess! I'm still enjoying the Clint Eastwood airline ticket too!

But here's the deal. I DID NOT have a late MY2014 GT3 allocation. I HAD a Feb 2014 allocation. I was V210 ready to go! And they switched me. They VX99'd my order. NOW.. I have a September allocation for MY2015. I'm not unhappy with a MY2015 don't get me wrong. So I am a BUMPED guy as you state. So I'll ask my question again, Is there a chance I get built before September as you stated could happen?


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