991 GT3 Owners/Depositors Group Action
#91
Race Director
To me it is not about the money any more nor never really was. It is about transparency and fair treatment to all parties. Once ethics gets compromised then all has been thrown out the window. I have quite a few sales people that rely on me to pull things thru for them and my business is not "black and white" but rather gray and I always tell them never lie to me because once you cross that bridge it is almost impossible to re-establish creditability
#92
Rennlist Member
Hi Nick,
I understand what you're saying, but I'm living proof that it can be done. My dealer has bent over backwards to come up with a good package for me, providing guidance based on previous experiences with PCNA, and acting as my go-between. They don't need to be empowered to provide insights and help steer this in the direction we both want. I couldn't be happier with how it's going, or the expected outcome.
I don't doubt that the situation will be/is different for people without long-term relationships, or for those that work with small dealerships. I hope it works out well for those people, but it is certainly preferable to have the dealer be your advocate.
I understand what you're saying, but I'm living proof that it can be done. My dealer has bent over backwards to come up with a good package for me, providing guidance based on previous experiences with PCNA, and acting as my go-between. They don't need to be empowered to provide insights and help steer this in the direction we both want. I couldn't be happier with how it's going, or the expected outcome.
I don't doubt that the situation will be/is different for people without long-term relationships, or for those that work with small dealerships. I hope it works out well for those people, but it is certainly preferable to have the dealer be your advocate.
#94
Burning Brakes
Hi Nick,
I understand what you're saying, but I'm living proof that it can be done. My dealer has bent over backwards to come up with a good package for me, providing guidance based on previous experiences with PCNA, and acting as my go-between. They don't need to be empowered to provide insights and help steer this in the direction we both want. I couldn't be happier with how it's going, or the expected outcome.
I don't doubt that the situation will be/is different for people without long-term relationships, or for those that work with small dealerships. I hope it works out well for those people, but it is certainly preferable to have the dealer be your advocate.
I understand what you're saying, but I'm living proof that it can be done. My dealer has bent over backwards to come up with a good package for me, providing guidance based on previous experiences with PCNA, and acting as my go-between. They don't need to be empowered to provide insights and help steer this in the direction we both want. I couldn't be happier with how it's going, or the expected outcome.
I don't doubt that the situation will be/is different for people without long-term relationships, or for those that work with small dealerships. I hope it works out well for those people, but it is certainly preferable to have the dealer be your advocate.
#95
I decided to stay with my Gen2 997GT3, but do have a question for you guys. If I was already driving/had taken delivery on a 991 GT3, I would be furious that I had to live with an aftermarket situation/engine not originally installed in the factory. To me, that will greatly decrease the value of any 991 GT3 not completely/originally installed in the factory. Is Porsche giving any of you guys a complete out?/the ability to completely return the car?
#96
I agree with you that having the dealer be your advocate is often highly beneficial. Let's not kid ourselves though as to motivation, because if they wanted to bridge the compensation gap they could also dip into the $15,000 profit they collected on the average sale. For a guy like you that has bought 21 cars, I would do exactly what I needed to do to ensure you bought 21 more.
#98
Instructor
Thread Starter
**** UPDATE ****
We have been inundated with membership requests to join the GT3 Action Group. Since we validate each request individually, this has been a time consuming but very worthwhile exercise.
We want to clarify the criteria for membership of the Action Group. The Group is only open to GT3 stakeholders who are either owners or depositors. Furthermore, we must be able to validate you as a genuine stakeholder. A user can be validated if he/she is known to us as a stakeholder, by virtue of his/her posting history on Rennlist/Pistonheads or other forums, or a member (known to us) from either community can vouch for that user.
We apologise for the inconvenience this may cause but discussion on the forum is private and we won't risk the initiative by allowing access to a non-stakeholder. If a user cannot be validated, he/she will not be invited to the private forum but can still join the Group and subscribe to the mailing list.
Please note that only Macca and I review the registration data and this is held in the strictest confidence. It will not be shared with any third party without the stakeholder's explicit written authority.
If you're interested in joining the Group, please PM either Macca or me and include your:
Thank you for your support.
We want to clarify the criteria for membership of the Action Group. The Group is only open to GT3 stakeholders who are either owners or depositors. Furthermore, we must be able to validate you as a genuine stakeholder. A user can be validated if he/she is known to us as a stakeholder, by virtue of his/her posting history on Rennlist/Pistonheads or other forums, or a member (known to us) from either community can vouch for that user.
We apologise for the inconvenience this may cause but discussion on the forum is private and we won't risk the initiative by allowing access to a non-stakeholder. If a user cannot be validated, he/she will not be invited to the private forum but can still join the Group and subscribe to the mailing list.
Please note that only Macca and I review the registration data and this is held in the strictest confidence. It will not be shared with any third party without the stakeholder's explicit written authority.
If you're interested in joining the Group, please PM either Macca or me and include your:
- Name
- Email address
- Contact number
- Owner/Car Pending/Depositor
- Supplying dealer
- Cost (with and without taxes)
- VIN (if available)
- Supply Date (if available or expected date)
- Registered Date ( if applicable)
Thank you for your support.
#99
Three Wheelin'
Biggest issue with dealing with your dealer is that they know no more than any of us. I was speaking with a salesman at a large dealer this weekend and he was making the same statement that it is disappointing at how quiet Porsche has been with this whole thing. They don't really know much as they haven't been told much.
#100
Biggest issue with dealing with your dealer is that they know no more than any of us. I was speaking with a salesman at a large dealer this weekend and he was making the same statement that it is disappointing at how quiet Porsche has been with this whole thing. They don't really know much as they haven't been told much.
#101
Instructor
Thread Starter
#102
The issue is further up the ranks...
#103
Instructor
Thread Starter
Totally agreed! And even at PCNA--any of the folks that we actually speak with (Customer Care in Massachusetts or the GT3 Concierges in Atlanta at the HQ) don't have any more info than they communicate to us either. In my experience this far, they have been courteous and professional.
The issue is further up the ranks...
The issue is further up the ranks...
GT3 Concierges? We don't have those in the UK but would be interested to learn the role they play.
#104
I found PCGB to be very unprofessional. In fact, it soon became clear that it was an absolute waste of time talking to them so I don't bother now. Many others have had the same experience. On investigation it appeared the person we were told was in charge of the GT3 list was actually a receptionist who is more experienced at ordering dealership stationery than dealing with customers. GT3 Concierges? We don't have those in the UK but would be interested to learn the role they play.
Last edited by 0Q991; 04-16-2014 at 08:46 AM.