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Old 04-05-2014, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Z356
Agree. It would seem to me improbable that they would take the time to carefully build 785 replacement gt3 engines and then have each of these 785 motors dyno tested for 1000 hours before they leave the factory! How many dynamometers would they need to do that in Zuffenhausen? How much extra time would that take and add to the delay? It just doesn't make sense or even sound logical.

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More improbable is he is claiming he will not get his car back until early May. I believe Porsche already picked his car. What would they do with it for 30 days?
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Originally Posted by Z356
Agree. It would seem to me improbable that they would take the time to carefully build 785 replacement gt3 engines and then have each of these 785 motors dyno tested for 1000 hours before they leave the factory! How many dynamometers would they need to do that in Zuffenhausen? How much extra time would that take and add to the delay? It just doesn't make sense or even sound logical.

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Sorry, but not correct. 1000 km not 1000 hours.
Car does approx. 300 km/hour so 1000 km would be just a tat over 3 hours on the dyno.
Still can't believe it. They did a 24 hrs @ 9000 rpm test as general test.
Last Tuesday they took the first car from my PC to the factory. We will see when this one comes back ....
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Did I read that correctly....24hrs at 9000rpm?
Old 04-05-2014, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Did I read that correctly....24hrs at 9000rpm?
yes sir 24 @ 9 k
Thats worth about 4000 Euro in fuel alone
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That's awesome.

"Here's your car Sir. Don't worry, your engine is in great shape!....How do we know this? Well, we tested it at 9000 RPM for 24 hours!"
Old 04-05-2014, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Peterfirst
Sorry, but not correct. 1000 km not 1000 hours. Car does approx. 300 km/hour so 1000 km would be just a tat over 3 hours on the dyno.
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Thanks for that correction. That at least sounds plausible. Still...that is a lot for each of these 785 motors! Coño!

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Old 04-05-2014, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Did I read that correctly....24hrs at 9000rpm?
Originally Posted by doubleurx
That's awesome.

"Here's your car Sir. Don't worry, your engine is in great shape!....How do we know this? Well, we tested it at 9000 RPM for 24 hours!"
He said 24 hours @ 9000 rpm as "a general test". I have to assume that means that they stress tested a handful of engines to assure that the fix was properly done, not that every engine is tested that way or even run in at all. Hopefully I'm not letting a joke go over my head with all this....
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Originally Posted by Z356
Thanks for that correction. That at least sounds plausible. Still...that is a lot for each of these 785 motors! Coño!

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And I agree....
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
That's awesome.

"Here's your car Sir. Don't worry, your engine is in great shape!....How do we know this? Well, we tested it at 9000 RPM for 24 hours!"
Ups - just double checked. Seems it was "only" 12 hours. Was the engineering test to prove that the solution is solid.
Still impressive. 12 hours at full speed would be over 3700 km ....
And, not only 9 k rpm but also full load.

Sorry again for the 24 hours "rumors"

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So if the solution is solid, then there is not need for further testing as the poster from Switzerland was led to believe. Peter if they took your car did Porsche indicate how long it will take to replace your engine?
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This doe not make sense. At this point let's wait for the announcement which was supposed to be yesterday but hopefully early next week. If there is any validity to this then I will concede that this engine could be cursed because this would have me believe that they have an inkling of doubt with this new engine. The more they stall or send mixed messages about this engine the more I finally would have to remove the subjective from the objective and not put myself in a position of years of frustration/issues. We are all still hanging on here because we believe in this car and Porsche but eventually you have to take a step back and look at it at face value.
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^ What Tony Montana said
Old 04-05-2014, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
So if the solution is solid, then there is not need for further testing as the poster from Switzerland was led to believe. Peter if they took your car did Porsche indicate how long it will take to replace your engine?
Nick:
It was not my car but the car of a friend. It was the first one which was delivered to this Porsche Center (last October). They do not yet have any information when it is supposed to come back. It was said the the assembly line will be used to put in the new engines. So cars in Germany seem to go over the assembly line once more . Would be the best and easiest way to do it (they talk about 350 cars in Germany).
Not yet clear if engines also could be changed at deales instead of at the factory.
If I hear anything I'll let you know.
Peter (needs to go to bed now!)
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
This doe not make sense. At this point let's wait for the announcement which was supposed to be yesterday but hopefully early next week. If there is any validity to this then I will concede that this engine could be cursed because this would have me believe that they have an inkling of doubt with this new engine. The more they stall or send mixed messages about this engine the more I finally would have to remove the subjective from the objective and not put myself in a position of years of frustration/issues. We are all still hanging on here because we believe in this car and Porsche but eventually you have to take a step back and look at it at face value.
The official announcement was on 3/17, so three weeks is Monday.
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Originally Posted by Peterfirst
Ups - just double checked. Seems it was "only" 12 hours. Was the engineering test to prove that the solution is solid.
Still impressive. 12 hours at full speed would be over 3700 km ....
And, not only 9 k rpm but also full load.

Sorry again for the 24 hours "rumors"

Peter
Ok Peter, a 12hr 9000 RPM engineering test on one or a few motors to validate the fix makes sense. I didn't think you were saying every engine was being tested that way. Thank you for the clarification.


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