For GT3 Customers Awaiting Delivery
#62
I spoke with Ian moon yesterday and I'm not on the list for a 15. He indicated first priority for Porsche is delivered cars (understandable). A little pissy I even owe my dealer 2k$ over msrp for my 2014. Ian said no answers for two weeks. I'm happy for my fellow reninlisters moving to a 15's wish I was with you guys. Bright side for 15'ers is chance to examine the fix on the early cars as they will likely be back on road.
#63
I spoke with Ian moon yesterday and I'm not on the list for a 15. He indicated first priority for Porsche is delivered cars (understandable). A little pissy I even owe my dealer 2k$ over msrp for my 2014. Ian said no answers for two weeks. I'm happy for my fellow reninlisters moving to a 15's wish I was with you guys. Bright side for 15'ers is chance to examine the fix on the early cars as they will likely be back on road.
And +1 on your comment on those now pushed to 2015MY. The wait stinks, but for them, it's a situation where they can be fully confident that "the wait will be worth it." For us with 2014's, PAG's actions in the next couple of weeks will go a LONG way to help determine how "worth it" the wait and drama will be.
To put it simply--I want my car and I want to NOT feel like I was left out in the cold!
#64
Cyrek -- Ian's my rep also. When you spoke with him, did he give any details / indications on anything?
And +1 on your comment on those now pushed to 2015MY. The wait stinks, but for them, it's a situation where they can be fully confident that "the wait will be worth it." For us with 2014's, PAG's actions in the next couple of weeks will go a LONG way to help determine how "worth it" the wait and drama will be.
To put it simply--I want my car and I want to NOT feel like I was left out in the cold!
And +1 on your comment on those now pushed to 2015MY. The wait stinks, but for them, it's a situation where they can be fully confident that "the wait will be worth it." For us with 2014's, PAG's actions in the next couple of weeks will go a LONG way to help determine how "worth it" the wait and drama will be.
To put it simply--I want my car and I want to NOT feel like I was left out in the cold!
V2604EVR
Calgon take me away....
#65
Rennlist Member
Yeah i definitely think having a 2015 build is a good thing, but the problem is the wait. Delivered cars first, which is still a few weeks away from even having a plan, then cars on the production line, which you're after the delivered cars. So as a 2015 spot now, what is a reasonable expectation for having guidance and clarity? I'm guessing May sometime, just a guess I haven't heard from anyone at porsche.
The way I see it is porsche is going to handle us 2015 spot holders with the least sympathy which isn't wrong from a practical standpoint but like others have said, it's a business. They don't have anything vested with us,the 2014 cars on the line they have some vested interest in.
Jeff
The way I see it is porsche is going to handle us 2015 spot holders with the least sympathy which isn't wrong from a practical standpoint but like others have said, it's a business. They don't have anything vested with us,the 2014 cars on the line they have some vested interest in.
Jeff
#66
Burning Brakes
Yeah i definitely think having a 2015 build is a good thing, but the problem is the wait. Delivered cars first, which is still a few weeks away from even having a plan, then cars on the production line, which you're after the delivered cars. So as a 2015 spot now, what is a reasonable expectation for having guidance and clarity? I'm guessing May sometime, just a guess I haven't heard from anyone at porsche.
The way I see it is porsche is going to handle us 2015 spot holders with the least sympathy which isn't wrong from a practical standpoint but like others have said, it's a business. They don't have anything vested with us,the 2014 cars on the line they have some vested interest in.
Jeff
The way I see it is porsche is going to handle us 2015 spot holders with the least sympathy which isn't wrong from a practical standpoint but like others have said, it's a business. They don't have anything vested with us,the 2014 cars on the line they have some vested interest in.
Jeff
Agree with everyones comments. Im torn between I want a car now and 2015 is a good thing. I am expecting (hoping) for a June/July delivery now.
I may be smoking something though. If it comes sooner.... woo hoo! I think we should get some estimate dates back in the system in the next 30 days. No one told me that, it's just a hunch.
#67
Rennlist Member
I wish I were that optimistic. I just got off the phone with the Atlanta office.
They basically told me "we'll let you know when your car has a production date"
Thats it. No consolation prize...
I also asked, "so basically you're telling me I'm starting from scratch." she said "yes you are"
If we're lucky we get cars in September.
Jeff
They basically told me "we'll let you know when your car has a production date"
Thats it. No consolation prize...
I also asked, "so basically you're telling me I'm starting from scratch." she said "yes you are"
If we're lucky we get cars in September.
Jeff
Agree with everyones comments. Im torn between I want a car now and 2015 is a good thing. I am expecting (hoping) for a June/July delivery now.
I may be smoking something though. If it comes sooner.... woo hoo! I think we should get some estimate dates back in the system in the next 30 days. No one told me that, it's just a hunch.
I may be smoking something though. If it comes sooner.... woo hoo! I think we should get some estimate dates back in the system in the next 30 days. No one told me that, it's just a hunch.
#68
Rennlist Member
Rubbaman -- I've spoken with Jenny before. Very helpful and friendly--and does not rush you off the phone. Looks like things are moving along and the 2015 MY for pre production cars is very much materializing now. Congrats on the outcome--it may be more of a wait ahead, but having a 2015 MY and the fix done right on the line is a very good outcome.
#69
PCNA / PAG should be well aware by now how the group of owners, specifically 2014 MY owners feel. To disenfranchise this group of Porsche / auto enthusiasts would negatively impact the brand and brand relationships more than some extra dollars and cents on their bottom line.
And, frankly, from an accounting standpoint (as a sub of a large publicly traded company), the losses involved could likely be written off as an extraordinary charge / loss, thereby not at all impacting the adjusted EPS used for earnings and trading valuation purposes. Not to mention that the overall figure to VAG is literally a rounding error for compensation packages to just 785 owners...
#70
I believe cars at port are likely to be pushed through to dealers around the same time delivered cars are getting their motors, though I can't confirm that. The service manager believes the replacement motor (or motors) will arrive in June or so, though that is just his best guess from the conversations he's had with Porsche. He is a fairly conservative person, so I think that's a safe estimate. Might be sooner, might be later, though 3 months seems realistic to both my sales rep and I.
It's a matter of production capacity, time and attention spent on each motor, and when and how long they take to ship. Remember though, Porsche doesn't want to intentionally do this slower than needed. Every day that goes by costs them money and goodwill, as well as the potential to lose a customer.
#72
Rennlist Member
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#75
So what does happen to the cars on the factory floor, finish and deliver or wait for the 785 first? You would think some time would need to pass between 14 and 15 guys or WTF?