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Old 03-13-2014, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill_C4S View Post
Just at Geneva motor show.....no PAG reps in sight....can't say surprised

So nothing to add on GT3....

919 looks fugly in flesh and is yet another turbo.....plus energy recovery.

RSR Is all business...much preferred it....shared main stand with Weber's new DD....

918 was behind closed doors ...seems not all sold....version on display was in an underwhelming white ....

Star of show to me was split between Speciale and Huracan....former just one very focused machine.....and the latter far more compelling in flesh....got to get up close and personal with both....May be difficult choice...with the RS looking increasingly AWOL.

650S ....unconvincing....

Granted all foregoing without benefit of drives....but visual/aesthetics/tactile elements...
its going to be interesting to see how the 919 fares against the Audi's and Peugeots ... will the hybrid technology really prove a match for the performance, endurance and economy of the diesels I wonder?

If Porsche dont win outright, it sort of pisses all over the philosophy behind the electric+petrol hybrid supercar movement in my mind: "lose on Sunday, no sale on Monday..."
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable View Post
its going to be interesting to see how the 919 fares against the Audi's and Peugeots ... will the hybrid technology really prove a match for the performance, endurance and economy of the diesels I wonder?

If Porsche dont win outright, it sort of pisses all over the philosophy behind the electric+petrol hybrid supercar movement in my mind: "lose on Sunday, no sale on Monday..."
frankly, P's body language is "To compete" and any podium finish would be gravy. Those Audis are tough as nails.
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable View Post
its going to be interesting to see how the 919 fares against the Audi's and Peugeots ...
No more Peugeot in Le Mans, I think the last time they raced was in 2012. It was Toyota with TS030 last year and TS040 this year. Both with gasoline V8 + hybrid.

So it is Audi with V6 TDI + hybrid vs Toyota with gas NA V8 + hybrid vs Porsche with gas V4 Turbo + hybrid. Should be interesting. Rooting for Porsche but my money is on Audi.

Good article on all 3 - http://www.gizmag.com/porsche-919-hy...tats040/31081/
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kosmo View Post
on a tangent here but Porsche's nomenclature is and will become interesting. Some examples:

the Panny S now has a Turbo V6, but they dont call it a Turbo, as there's already a Turbo in the line up.
the Macan S has a Turbo V6 , they do not call it a Turbo. Then theres there the Macan Turbo.
I suspect the Cayenne S will also go the same route.

I strongly suspect there will be another Turbo added in the 911 range. Perhaps a smaller Turbo F6 in the S while the Base will make do w/ a Turbo F4 (Subaru anyone)?

So it is possible that the future GT3 will really be a Twin Turbo but w/ 2wd and track gear while a future GT2 would be a GT3 Plus 10%? Im confused.
The NA RSR replaced the Twin Turbo in GT2 class so don't think being NA or Turbo ever mattered.
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sunnyr View Post
No more Peugeot in Le Mans, I think the last time they raced was in 2012. It was Toyota with TS030 last year and TS040 this year. Both with gasoline V8 + hybrid.

So it is Audi with V6 TDI + hybrid vs Toyota with gas NA V8 + hybrid vs Porsche with gas V4 Turbo + hybrid. Should be interesting. Rooting for Porsche but my money is on Audi.

Good article on all 3 - http://www.gizmag.com/porsche-919-hy...tats040/31081/
cool thanks! I agree Audi is the team to beat, from technology, team, and drivers
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frankly, P's body language is "To compete" and any podium finish would be gravy. Those Audis are tough as nails.
agreed, although given Porsche's history, to return without a win or at least a podium is a bit of a "meh" for me.
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