Stop Sale?
02-12-2014, 09:14 PM
#91
Rennlist Member
Mate, rest assured its a PDI repair. Its only affected the more recent cars (prior to that the parts appear to have been fine), and I suspect the reason it showed up in Switzerland is that unlike most markets that car was probably in the hands of the new owner within 14 days of production, not on a boat for 4 weeks! Im not 100% sure of the amount of time it takes a tech to replace the bracket and bolts but I expect PCNA will need a week or two to cover all cars on the latest shipments at point of PDI although obviously these will start to flow as soon as work is completed. I understand PAG are having QC issues across the product range due to suppliers so its not an isolated GT3 incident (like the Thermostat). They certainly have some work to do in this area!
02-12-2014, 09:14 PM
#92
Race Director
The point is, that a loose/failed bracket could result in vibration, unwanted contact, and subsequent failure of an oil line.
Last edited by Mike in CA; 02-12-2014 at 09:31 PM.
02-12-2014, 09:16 PM
#93
Race Director
02-12-2014, 09:16 PM
#94
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As I mentioned in an earlier post last night on another thread the oil cooler retaining bolts have been suspected of being linked to the Swiss fire and hence the Stop/Sale for cars on the water. The issue affects later production cars not earlier ones (there is a parts production cut off date). Its a precaution but the bolts/bracket will be changed before cars are delivered to customers. PAG obviously have some QC issues right now across their model platforms and need to kick their suppliers into shape. Mike, I dont believe your car will be affected but ask you dealer on Monday when the news will have filtered down to him...
Really a strange situation. Different problems for different production dates. Does not make sense.
02-12-2014, 09:16 PM
#95
Rennlist Member
Mate, rest assured its a PDI repair. Its only affected the more recent cars (prior to that the parts appear to have been fine), and I suspect the reason it showed up in Switzerland is that unlike most markets that car was probably in the hands of the new owner within 14 days of production, not on a boat for 4 weeks! Im not 100% sure of the amount of time it takes a tech to replace the bracket and bolts but I expect PCNA will need a week or two to cover all cars on the latest shipments at point of PDI although obviously these will start to flow as soon as work is completed. I understand PAG are having QC issues across the product range due to suppliers so its not an isolated GT3 incident (like the Thermostat). They certainly have some work to do in this area!
02-12-2014, 09:17 PM
#96
Rennlist Member
02-12-2014, 09:23 PM
#97
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Its funny. Excuse my tounge in cheek. I have to have a giggle here uin my hammock. I live on a small coral island in the middle of the pacific linked by a satellite to a thread hosted in the greatest nation on earth and Im giving you guys the facts.....somethings wrong LOL!
02-12-2014, 09:30 PM
#100
Rennlist Member
FWIW, the announcement today by Porsche to its dealers does not specify the issue other than to say it related to engine quality issues. If Porsche has identified the problem and the fix why place a stop sale order especially if this matter can be corrected in PDI? The dealer would not get the car until cleared by PDI.
Now I do understand some may have clear PDI but those could have been on a case be case basis. Not that many cars have recently cleared PDI.
Now I do understand some may have clear PDI but those could have been on a case be case basis. Not that many cars have recently cleared PDI.
02-12-2014, 09:44 PM
#101
Rennlist Member
Nick. Keep your panties on. There is more information to follow to your dealer. He will have it shortly (actually probably next week given the US dealers seem to get this information later than ROW).
The Stop Sale is simply a precaution to ensure any car that has exited PDI and is in transit to dealer or from dealer to customer is quarantined until the parts are replaced (if it is an affected VIN number).
You do not have to believe the authenticity of my information but I can tell you its 100% correct :-)
The Stop Sale is simply a precaution to ensure any car that has exited PDI and is in transit to dealer or from dealer to customer is quarantined until the parts are replaced (if it is an affected VIN number).
You do not have to believe the authenticity of my information but I can tell you its 100% correct :-)
02-12-2014, 09:46 PM
#102
Rennlist Member
Actually Nick, all the parts for Porsche products are made JIT. Its a supply chain management and QC piece. The bolt and bracket design have not changed, however the parts are supplied as built and made in batches by supplier likewise so there may have been an issue with their the quality of the later componentry. All I can tell you is that the issue affects later production vehicles and is a simple fix. The "engine related component" statement is a little misleading. As I understand it, in effect its a much smaller job than replacing the Thermostat (which requires full evacuation of the coolant).
Its funny. Excuse my tounge in cheek. I have to have a giggle here uin my hammock. I live on a small coral island in the middle of the pacific linked by a satellite to a thread hosted in the greatest nation on earth and Im giving you guys the facts.....somethings wrong LOL!
Its funny. Excuse my tounge in cheek. I have to have a giggle here uin my hammock. I live on a small coral island in the middle of the pacific linked by a satellite to a thread hosted in the greatest nation on earth and Im giving you guys the facts.....somethings wrong LOL!
I love it! Nothing like the global information age.
02-12-2014, 10:00 PM
#105
Rennlist Member
You boys are funny. You havent even got your car yet. Imagine how sphincter puckering it would be to be driving one of the "affected" cars this weekend on track for example....