Stop Sale?
02-12-2014, 08:05 PM
#76
Rennlist Member
Nick, isn't the issue whether it can be fixed at either the port PDI or the dealer, or if it would require some other solution?
Many issues are taken care of during the PDI at the ports of delivery. If I were a dealer, I would much rather have any holds on cars take place at the ports since the dealer gets invoiced for the car when but not until it leaves the port.
Many issues are taken care of during the PDI at the ports of delivery. If I were a dealer, I would much rather have any holds on cars take place at the ports since the dealer gets invoiced for the car when but not until it leaves the port.
Also, I don't believe PDI has the facilities or time that a dealer has.
02-12-2014, 08:09 PM
#77
02-12-2014, 08:11 PM
#78
Three Wheelin'
Good point but they must also deal with the cars already delivered. So if the problem involves all cars and Porsche is trying to decide if the dealer can repair then the problem is more complex then we know.
Also, I don't believe PDI has the facilities or time that a dealer has.
Also, I don't believe PDI has the facilities or time that a dealer has.
"Effective immediately and until further notice, delivery of any new 2014 911 GT3 units must be suspended. This Stop Sale action is being taken in order to investigate a quality issue that potentially exists with the engine of the subject vehicles. While additional details are not readily available, please know this matter is of the highest priority in the Porsche organization. "
Has there been additional information that Porsche is evaluating if the repair can be accomplished by the dealers?
Ryan
02-12-2014, 08:11 PM
#79
Rennlist Member
Good point but they must also deal with the cars already delivered. So if the problem involves all cars and Porsche is trying to decide if the dealer can repair then the problem is more complex then we know.
Also, I don't believe PDI has the facilities or time that a dealer has.
Also, I don't believe PDI has the facilities or time that a dealer has.
With respect to the car mentioned by pietrostone, though, I thought he said that it had already caught fire. If that is the case, then repairing it is likely considerably more complex than making preventative repairs to cars that haven't yet had problems.
02-12-2014, 08:13 PM
#80
Three Wheelin'
Although that would make perfectly good sense, one of the posters mentioned that it had happened to a car in Italy that had only 60 kilometers on the odometer... Assuming this is indeed true, it would seem to render your hypothesis as incorrect...
This is going to be interesting...
This is going to be interesting...
Thanks,
Ryan
02-12-2014, 08:20 PM
#82
Three Wheelin'
02-12-2014, 08:34 PM
#83
Nordschleife Master
02-12-2014, 08:50 PM
#84
Rennlist Member
Brian,
do you know if a GT3 "sales stop" also halts/delays cars that are about to enter the production line? Or does PAG continue to produce then stockpile the cars 'out back' until they are fixed/cleared for sale?
tia
do you know if a GT3 "sales stop" also halts/delays cars that are about to enter the production line? Or does PAG continue to produce then stockpile the cars 'out back' until they are fixed/cleared for sale?
tia
02-12-2014, 08:54 PM
#85
Race Director
FWIW, the oil/water heat exchanger is right next to the sump and not far from some very hot exhaust components. And it's covered up by the engine undertray/diffuser so oil could pool and become trapped......
02-12-2014, 08:59 PM
#86
Drifting
Macca, please call up your contacts and find out if our cars are going back for repair or it will be fixed at the dealer or at PDI. At least I have the .2 to keep me going until all this is hashed out.This is not good for Porsche.
02-12-2014, 09:09 PM
#88
Rennlist Member
As I mentioned in an earlier post last night on another thread the oil cooler retaining bolts have been suspected of being linked to the Swiss fire and hence the Stop/Sale for cars on the water. The issue affects later production cars not earlier ones (there is a parts production cut off date). Its a precaution but the bolts/bracket will be changed before cars are delivered to customers. PAG obviously have some QC issues right now across their model platforms and need to kick their suppliers into shape. Mike, I dont believe your car will be affected but ask you dealer on Monday when the news will have filtered down to him...
02-12-2014, 09:10 PM
#89
Nordschleife Master
Bracket comes loose....oil cooler flops around or allows oil line to come into contact with something it shouldn't.....line fails spilling oil.....oil pressure drops as described in earlier post....oil catches fire on hot manifold or whatever....bingo! FWIW, the oil/water heat exchanger is right next to the sump and not far from some very hot exhaust components. And it's covered up by the engine undertray/diffuser so oil could pool and become trapped......
But I guess that scenario is possible...
02-12-2014, 09:11 PM
#90
Race Director
I hope it's something that simple.