Why am I being denied the European Delivery? - First Topic Post
01-05-2014, 08:29 PM
#16
Three Wheelin'
I live in Ireland ( Europe) and have done a Factory collection for my last 997 GT3. Here's some info.
In Ireland/UK the buyer pays an extra $3000. He gets 2X flights to Stuttgart airport transfer, Hotel and dinner, and a factory tour and handover.
Euro dealers are forbidden to sell over list price. Is this not true in the USA ?
Factory collection is not possible for GT3's for winter months due to not fitting winter tyres I think.
Lovely car Karl, will look great parked beside my RS later in the year !
In Ireland/UK the buyer pays an extra $3000. He gets 2X flights to Stuttgart airport transfer, Hotel and dinner, and a factory tour and handover.
Euro dealers are forbidden to sell over list price. Is this not true in the USA ?
Factory collection is not possible for GT3's for winter months due to not fitting winter tyres I think.
Lovely car Karl, will look great parked beside my RS later in the year !
01-05-2014, 09:22 PM
#18
Race Director
When the cost for Euro delivery was $2250 in 2009, I received one night's stay in a 4 star hotel, cab fare to the factory, and lunch at the factory restaurant. (No airfare) As has been pointed out, it's different now that Euro delivery is free.
Compare this to when I collected my Carrera in 1984. In addition to the above there was a discount on the price of the car and airfare was included. Times have changed....
Compare this to when I collected my Carrera in 1984. In addition to the above there was a discount on the price of the car and airfare was included. Times have changed....
01-05-2014, 11:31 PM
#22
Burning Brakes
01-06-2014, 02:03 AM
#26
When the cost for Euro delivery was $2250 in 2009, I received one night's stay in a 4 star hotel, cab fare to the factory, and lunch at the factory restaurant. (No airfare) As has been pointed out, it's different now that Euro delivery is free. Compare this to when I collected my Carrera in 1984. In addition to the above there was a discount on the price of the car and airfare was included. Times have changed....
Factory Delivery has a long history at Porsche. It was first call 'Vacation Delivery Plan'. Check out this brochure from MY1955 (attached photos).
Saludos,
Eduardo
PS I have done 5 Euro deliveries so far. By far the BMW program offers the best savings, followed by Mercedes! The 'bond' created to the marque by the entire European Delivery program experience is enormous. From a marketing perspective, it's the 'gift' that keeps on giving years after the sale has occurred. It is extremely short-sighted of Porsche not to offer a real discount on its European Delivery Program, especially in the face of BMW's & Mercedes' significant savings. Although not necessary for the in-demand gt3 model, it could incentivize additional sales for its other models (e.g 991, 981). By the way, there is a 918 European Delivery Program in which you get the factory Leipzig track all to yourself for three hours, along with a factory driving instructor to help you out! So if they put their mind to it, PAG can make European Delivery an exciting option for any US Porsche customer in what ever model they may choose!
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01-06-2014, 02:18 AM
#27
Rennlist Member
I'm going to have an interesting talk with my dealer this week. I don't want to pay $3,000 that I don't have too, however they did find me an allocation at the last minute.
P.S. This may also answer the OP's question in some ways. I would assume that Porsche dealerships make out like bandits when they sell GT3s, RS, etc, because they get to sell them at MSRP. So if I'm requesting european delivery, then they are too happy about making 3,000 less on the car, which is why they gave the bull**** story to the OP about liability or whatever as a reason they couldn't do ED.
01-06-2014, 02:19 AM
#28
Race Director
Mike: Are you sure you got airfare was included in the early 1980's? I did two European Delivery Porsches back then - a 944 in Fall of 1982 and a 944 Turbo in Fall of 1985. I got the discounts...but no airfare was included! How would the latter have worked anyway - NYC vs Chicago vs SanFrancisco vs Honolulu?
Factory Delivery has a long history at Porsche. It was first call 'Vacation Delivery Plan'. Check out this brochure from MY1955 (attached photos).
Saludos,
Eduardo
PS I have done 5 Euro deliveries so far. By far the BMW program offers the best savings, followed by Mercedes! The 'bond' created to the marque by the entire European Delivery program experience is enormous. From a marketing perspective, it's the 'gift' that keeps on giving years after the sale has occurred. It is extremely short-sighted of Porsche not to offer a real discount on its European Delivery Program, especially in the face of BMW's & Mercedes' significant savings. Although not necessary for the in-demand gt3 model, it could incentivize additional sales for its other models (e.g 991, 981). By the way, there is a 918 European Delivery Program in which you get the factory Leipzig track all to yourself for three hours, along with a factory driving instructor to help you out! So if they put their mind to it, PAG can make European Delivery an exciting option for any US Porsche customer in what ever model they may choose!
.
Factory Delivery has a long history at Porsche. It was first call 'Vacation Delivery Plan'. Check out this brochure from MY1955 (attached photos).
Saludos,
Eduardo
PS I have done 5 Euro deliveries so far. By far the BMW program offers the best savings, followed by Mercedes! The 'bond' created to the marque by the entire European Delivery program experience is enormous. From a marketing perspective, it's the 'gift' that keeps on giving years after the sale has occurred. It is extremely short-sighted of Porsche not to offer a real discount on its European Delivery Program, especially in the face of BMW's & Mercedes' significant savings. Although not necessary for the in-demand gt3 model, it could incentivize additional sales for its other models (e.g 991, 981). By the way, there is a 918 European Delivery Program in which you get the factory Leipzig track all to yourself for three hours, along with a factory driving instructor to help you out! So if they put their mind to it, PAG can make European Delivery an exciting option for any US Porsche customer in what ever model they may choose!
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I've done 3 Porsche tourist deliveries, and one each with Volvo, Mercedes, and BMW so it's possible I'm confusing one with the other as some of them most definitely included airfare. I do remember in '84 that pictures (no flash) were allowed on parts of the factory tour; somewhere I have slides to prove that, at least! Great stuff from the '55 brochure, BTW....
Best,
Mike
Last edited by Mike in CA; 01-06-2014 at 02:39 AM.
01-06-2014, 04:22 AM
#29
Race Director
Two questions:
-why do BMW offer a discount with ED?.. Where is the savings for them?
-why was dealer more upset ab one buyer on here taking the sudden harden option (vs Leipzig)?
while I have not paid for my allocation yet, salesperson at Sonnen encouraged me to take ED option if I could take the time and does not charge for it.. Just FYI for those whose dealers are charging.
-why do BMW offer a discount with ED?.. Where is the savings for them?
-why was dealer more upset ab one buyer on here taking the sudden harden option (vs Leipzig)?
while I have not paid for my allocation yet, salesperson at Sonnen encouraged me to take ED option if I could take the time and does not charge for it.. Just FYI for those whose dealers are charging.