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ScottKelly911 12-27-2013 04:12 AM

991 GT3.2?
 
Eduardo talked about the 991.2 facelift coming in the next couple of years. Part of the speculation is that they would have 918 inspired tail lights. That inspired me to do a quick photoshop of what they might look like on a 991TT. Well, now I just did one for the GT3. Remember, this is a crude photoshop, just to get an idea of how they might look. Honestly, I think the idea is a good one and makes the current tail lights already look dated. I think the 918 tail lights really fit the lines of the 991 cars very well! What do you think? Again, the quality of the photochop isn't good, but good enough to get the idea of what it would look like.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps10f3e026.jpg

Dlff 12-27-2013 04:57 AM

IMHO, you may be right. I have seen some prototype 991s in camouflage form in various websites. Looks like they are testing the 991.2 which I think will not be available until 2015 as a 2016 model or earliest 4Q / 2014 as 2015 model. The biggest changes will be the front apron below the front lights & the rear lights as you have mentioned. This is exactly what happened to the 997.2. It will somewhat follow the trend. Engine wise your guess will be as good as mine most probably a bit more power. Cheers mate!

0Q991 12-27-2013 08:10 AM

But is there going to even be a 991.2 GT3?

ShakeNBake 12-27-2013 10:36 AM

maybe a manual and no RWS? haha...

reidry 12-27-2013 10:50 AM

Original:
http://photos.stuttcars.info/upload/...ht-porsche.jpg

918
http://www.hdwallpicz.com/images/201...top-photos.jpg

Your Photoshop of 918 onto GT3
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps10f3e026.jpg

The 918 tail lights are different, but I'm not sure the 991 tail lights look dated next to the 918 units. The profile of the 991 tail light is extremely good, that long thin almost prototype non-roadcar look, espeically as you move the viewing perspective around to 1/4 rear like this...

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/7...-911-gt3-1.JPG

While IMHO the 918 lights don't look as good from that perspective...

http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/u...918-spyder.jpg

Of course if anyone wants to drop off a 918 so I can re-evaluate in person, I'd be happy to provide garage space.

;)

Ryan

GrantG 12-27-2013 12:08 PM

I think the Macan also has these 3-D tail-lights inspried from the 918. They will probably spread across all the model ranges soon...

Bacura 12-27-2013 12:30 PM

The 918 taillights are different but imho don't look better.

GrantG 12-27-2013 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Bacura (Post 11005704)
The 918 taillights are different but imho don't look better.

"Different" is the whole reason for a facelift - to make a 2-year old car noticably out of date, so the customer will "upgrade" to a newer model. They usually add a barely noticeable power increase of 3-5% or so too...

Zeus 12-27-2013 12:35 PM

Dear Porsche,

The absolute LAST thing in the world you need to worry about right now is the design of the 991's tail lights. Why mess with success? They are perfection as is. Please don't F' with 'em. Don't make them fatter, shorter, longer...or otherwise do what you did with the 997.2's in relation to the 997.1. Stop. Please. Put your efforts into getting us some true bucket seats here in the US of A instead. Sound like a plan? We cool?

kthxbye

-Your friends from Rennlist

PS. If you aren't going to take our advice. Damn you all to hell. If you still want to change them to something more along the lines of the 918's - at least don't change the shape of the 991's tail lights, but ensure that the "hollowed-out" portion of the 918's inspired light is used as a vent or something, and with a titanium metal mesh. We still cool? We'll be checking the mail for that check BTW...

kthxbye

-Your friends from Rennlist (again)

GrantG 12-27-2013 12:57 PM

The main thing that Porsche needs to do for the facelift to the 981 and 991 is to add the GT3's electric steering software, so they can have some semblance of steering feel and feedback.

Dude- 12-27-2013 01:09 PM

If the 991.2 change their tail lights it will be designed to fit the existing hole. This model is new and it will be foolish to remold a new bumper to fit the lights. If they touch the metal, someone should be fired.
If it does happen, at least we call get to do a quick plug and play upgrade.

frayed 12-27-2013 01:23 PM

lol @ zeus.

Zero911 12-27-2013 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Dude- (Post 11005793)
If the 991.2 change their tail lights it will be designed to fit the existing hole. This model is new and it will be foolish to remold a new bumper to fit the lights. If they touch the metal, someone should be fired.
If it does happen, at least we call get to do a quick plug and play upgrade.

But the 997.2s lights did not fit the 997.1 hole... :(

GrantG 12-27-2013 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Zero911 (Post 11005861)
But the 997.2s lights did not fit the 997.1 hole... :(

Major headlight redesign on 996.1 to 996.2 too...

24Chromium 12-27-2013 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Zero911 (Post 11005861)
But the 997.2s lights did not fit the 997.1 hole... :(

On the contrary... I do believe they did, if you swapped out the rear bumper fascia along with the lights.

That's the key to the dot one to dot two upgrade... make the new bits fit into the existing sheet metal. This way, very little -- if any -- of the car's substance, and more importantly, the manufacturing (tooling, jigs, fixtures, robots, etc.), has to change.


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