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Old 11-25-2013, 05:56 PM
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Why would you be concerned? This is the first GT3 ever that has been designed from the ground up as a great street car. The first ever to not use a motorsport derived engine. Why would Porsche use a street car engine as the basis for a new motorsport engine?

Just enjoy it for what it is. No matter what, there will always be something new and improved on the way!

Better yet, get a naturally aspirated V10 while you still can.
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Originally Posted by RayDBonz
Just enjoy it for what it is. No matter what, there will always be something new and improved on the way!

Better yet, get a naturally aspirated V10 while you still can.
You meant naturally aspirated Manual V 10 right?
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Originally Posted by RayDBonz
Why would you be concerned? This is the first GT3 ever that has been designed from the ground up as a great street car. The first ever to not use a motorsport derived engine. Why would Porsche use a street car engine as the basis for a new motorsport engine?

Just enjoy it for what it is. No matter what, there will always be something new and improved on the way!

Better yet, get a naturally aspirated V10 while you still can.
Then why a true dry sump built with racing spec if designed as a street car?
Old 11-27-2013, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 911dev
Then why a true dry sump built with racing spec if designed as a street car?
For the same reason we have CLs. Marketing.
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
For the same reason we have CLs. Marketing.
Hardly.

The 2010 and later turbo's 9A1 is an integrated wet sump, unlike the previous Mezger and unlike the 991 GT3.

Porsche didn't go with the aforementioned dry sump with numerous oil pick ups (7-9?), Ti rods, etc... just to build a street car like any 911. If that was the case why not make the existing Power Kit on the C-S healthier for a bunch less dough.
Old 11-27-2013, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 911dev
Then why a true dry sump built with racing spec if designed as a street car?
Because it will occasionally get tracked, and with fairly sticky and wide tires, big power, more down force than previous GT3’s, RWS, PTV, etc., it can generate more lateral g-forces than its lesser 9A1 cousins. Porsche must have thought that warranted a more robust, dry sump oiling system, something that Chevy also designed into certain versions of the Corvette, as well as a few other manufacturers of street cars that see occasional track use and can pull big g’s when they do.
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Originally Posted by fbirch
Because it will occasionally get tracked, and with fairly sticky and wide tires, big power, more down force than previous GT3’s, RWS, PTV, etc., it can generate more lateral g-forces than its lesser 9A1 cousins. Porsche must have thought that warranted a more robust, dry sump oiling system, something that Chevy also designed into certain versions of the Corvette, as well as a few other manufacturers of street cars that see occasional track use and can pull big g’s when they do.
no kidding.

Point is all GT3s are street cars which happen to be great track cars. Previous generations had iconic Mezger, as we all know was race derived. The 9A1 GT3 is not now; may never be ~ who knows. Fact is this GT3 is no less track focused than its predecessor. Some here want to believe it is because the engine hasn't been raced competitively yet.
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Originally Posted by 911dev
no kidding.

Point is all GT3s are street cars which happen to be great track cars. Previous generations had iconic Mezger, as we all know was race derived. The 9A1 GT3 is not now; may never be ~ who knows. Fact is this GT3 is no less track focused than its predecessor. Some here want to believe it is because the engine hasn't been raced competitively yet.
No, the point that I was addressing is whether or not the presence of a dry sump oiling system could be interpreted as proof that Porsche intends to develop this motor into a motorsports power plant (i.e., put it into cars they build to be used on track exclusively). It doesn't, and that was the only point I was addressing.
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The less we pretend a production 911 GT3 is a 'racecar' the happier and more honest with ourselves we'll be. Having been in both Cups, GT3s and racecars they're two different things, or your buying into the marketing. They've diverged. Honestly, some here should buy a Cup car and destroy your nearest DE.
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Originally Posted by green
You meant naturally aspirated Manual V 10 right?
I couldn't agree more

The N/A V10 is not going away soon, but the manual is on its way out quickly...
Old 11-27-2013, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tmg57
While I generally agree with the sentiments of the posters above, I would be very unhappy to see a 2015 GT3 RS roll out in a few months sporting a new motor and no RWS.
You can have mine right after I break it in during Euro delivery.
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Originally Posted by consolidated
The less we pretend a production 911 GT3 is a 'racecar' the happier and more honest with ourselves we'll be. Having been in both Cups, GT3s and racecars they're two different things, or your buying into the marketing. They've diverged. Honestly, some here should buy a Cup car and destroy your nearest DE.
Hmm. Yes. No.
991 might still hold on to being the most track survivable car. If it does not its a goner.
Can't drive a CUP to the track, and lots of CUP parts fit on the 996/997 models. No longer applies.



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