GrantG

I found this report rather shocking (17 sec faster than GT3 for NISMO version)??

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/18/2...595-hp-leaked/

frayed

Geesh. Godzirrah has returned with a vengeance. But it cannot outrun ugly.

0Q991

The previous GTR time was 7:18, so think of it as 10 seconds (which is nuts...) faster than it was.

The GT3 isn't close to 7:18 and is certainly further from the Nismo time...but the Nismo might wind up costing close to $200k...that's a lot of coin...

And I second the comment above--can't outrun ugly and can't outrun the overall ownership experience of a Nissan versus a Porsche. Just my opinion.

GrantG

I found more detailed specs (and it does sound like it will be a big price jump):

The first official images and details about the Nissan GT-R Nismo have hit the web, prior to the car's full reveal set for tomorrow.

The Nismo-tuned GT-R makes use of an uprated twin-turbo V6 3.8-liter engine which now develops 595 HP (438 kW) and 480 lb-ft (650 Nm), up from the previous 545 HP (401 kW) and 463 lb-ft (627 Nm) of torque. The increased output was possible after revising the intake and exhaust systems, as well as by installing bigger turbochargers derived from the GT3-spec model and modifying the ignition timing. Nissan mentions it would have been possible to squeeze additional power from the engine but at the risk of damaging the gearbox.

The Nissan GT-R Nismo sits on 20-inch alloy wheels wrapped around in 255/40RF-20 run-flat Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT 600 DSST tires which provide more grip than before. The vehicle will be available with an optional track package which was capable of lapping the Nürburgring in 7:08.69 at the end of September when it was driven by Michael Krumm, an ex FIA GT1 champion.

This optional kit will encompass several carbon fiber body parts, along with a front splitter and a massive rear spoiler. Those carbon fiber bits and pieces will shave off a significant 143 lbs (64.8 kg) from the car's curb weight. In addition, the package will also encompass various chassis tweaks, manually-adjustable Öhlins shocks and different springs with a lighter rate.

Pricing details have not been disclosed but Nissan mentions the GT-R Nismo with the optional track package will cost less than 200,000 USD (about 148,000 EUR / 124,000 GBP).

Check back tomorrow for more official photos and full details.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11311186...-708-ring-time

I remember when the GT-R was debuted with a price of $69k...

I'll be shocked if the price is really close to $200k - it will be announced tomorrow...

cds4402

I have never driven a GTR, but I can imagine that it's like having sex with someone who is just starfishing it...sure you're doing it, but it's not very involving or exciting.

mtuttle

Frayed...That is hilarious! ahh...had to say out loud. I had one the first year. Paid $5k over. Yeah fast but road like a truck. All the 24 year olds loved it.

Nizer

Good to know it's no longer about faster lap times....

frayed

Whoa, Ohlins. Nice.

frayed

That wouldn't normally be a problem, but only 24 year old boys fawn over the car.

Mike in CA

+1

I wonder if the track package version is viable as a street car....

GrantG

Yeah, I have double-adjustable separate cannister Ohlins on my Evo (wannabe GT-R with Manual gearbox) and they are really nice!

GrantG

Probably something similar to GT3 RS Clubsport, I would guess...

richk

I have 24k miles on my 2011 911GTS and 7k miles on my 2014 GTR black edition. Both are great cars and they are certainly very different.

IMHO both are extremely competent cars...I think the GTS looks better but I don't think the GTR is ugly.

frayed

I wish Porsche would bring Ohlins or Motons into their GT cars. PASM is good, porsche is still using a basic bilstein damper (IIRC it's bilstein), not the same caliber as the high end dampers.

Maybe a durability issue? Or cost issue?

GrantG

Sounds like the new Camaro Z/28 is going to be using some state-of-the-art (spool-valve) dampers too - probably a non-adjustable and integrated cannister version of these.

http://www.multimatic.com/pdf/multimatic_dssv.pdf