Gents the Auto Motor und Sport Definative 991 GT3 Test results are in....an upset!
08-28-2013, 03:33 PM
#32
Rear swaybar and swaybar mounts (upper right in the pic above) also needed to move backwards and the upper shock mounting needed to change to allow for the new shock angle. Pretty easy to lengthen the 935 style spring plate and relocate the outer attachment, which gives a better toe curve in the process.
Then custom fenders with the wheel opening shifted backwards:
So that it's not obvious when everything is done:
The axles run at a slightly steeper angle, requiring some changes to the CVs for longevity. Also the tire clearance to the headers is cut down, requiring some slight modifications there. So it's quite a project, but it has a pretty major impact on the weight distribution.
Last edited by Petevb; 08-28-2013 at 03:54 PM.
08-28-2013, 09:56 PM
#33
I could see that.
As much as i hate driving a cvt, I never thought about it being in a true sports car. The more I think about it, if set up properly, it makes a lot of sense, always operating at peak torque or hp. Interesting and disappointing at the same time.
As much as i hate driving a cvt, I never thought about it being in a true sports car. The more I think about it, if set up properly, it makes a lot of sense, always operating at peak torque or hp. Interesting and disappointing at the same time.
08-28-2013, 10:06 PM
#34
Rennlist Member
On my early car, yea. It's pretty major surgery, as you'd image. It required relocating the inboard trailing arm pickup backwards (also did reinforcement and made it height adjustable):
Rear swaybar and swaybar mounts (upper right in the pic above) also needed to move backwards and the upper shock mounting needed to change to allow for the new shock angle. Pretty easy to lengthen the 935 style spring plate and relocate the outer attachment, which gives a better toe curve in the process.
Then custom fenders with the wheel opening shifted backwards:
So that it's not obvious when everything is done:
The axles run at a slightly steeper angle, requiring some changes to the CVs for longevity. Also the tire clearance to the headers is cut down, requiring some slight modifications there. So it's quite a project, but it has a pretty major impact on the weight distribution.
Rear swaybar and swaybar mounts (upper right in the pic above) also needed to move backwards and the upper shock mounting needed to change to allow for the new shock angle. Pretty easy to lengthen the 935 style spring plate and relocate the outer attachment, which gives a better toe curve in the process.
Then custom fenders with the wheel opening shifted backwards:
So that it's not obvious when everything is done:
The axles run at a slightly steeper angle, requiring some changes to the CVs for longevity. Also the tire clearance to the headers is cut down, requiring some slight modifications there. So it's quite a project, but it has a pretty major impact on the weight distribution.
I'll take it.
08-28-2013, 10:26 PM
#35
Burning Brakes
Sounds like the same characteristics as my long-time-ago (1978) Husky 390 Enduro. Allan
08-29-2013, 12:42 AM
#36
Burning Brakes
On my early car, yea. It's pretty major surgery, as you'd image. It required relocating the inboard trailing arm pickup backwards (also did reinforcement and made it height adjustable):
Rear swaybar and swaybar mounts (upper right in the pic above) also needed to move backwards and the upper shock mounting needed to change to allow for the new shock angle. Pretty easy to lengthen the 935 style spring plate and relocate the outer attachment, which gives a better toe curve in the process.
So that it's not obvious when everything is done:
The axles run at a slightly steeper angle, requiring some changes to the CVs for longevity. Also the tire clearance to the headers is cut down, requiring some slight modifications there. So it's quite a project, but it has a pretty major impact on the weight distribution.
Rear swaybar and swaybar mounts (upper right in the pic above) also needed to move backwards and the upper shock mounting needed to change to allow for the new shock angle. Pretty easy to lengthen the 935 style spring plate and relocate the outer attachment, which gives a better toe curve in the process.
So that it's not obvious when everything is done:
The axles run at a slightly steeper angle, requiring some changes to the CVs for longevity. Also the tire clearance to the headers is cut down, requiring some slight modifications there. So it's quite a project, but it has a pretty major impact on the weight distribution.
08-29-2013, 12:58 AM
#37
Burning Brakes
I know exactly what you mean. According to some pundits, the reason F1 banned CVT around the time Williams put it into a test car – besides the performance advantage, which was reportedly significant – is that racing fans like the sound of gear changes and RPM’s rapidly climbing and falling. They thought it would sound weird and ruin the show. As subjective as that is, I tend to agree. Just another example that not everything that goes faster is more fun. When CVT finally happens at the top of the automotive food chain, I hope they find a way to make it fun. I wonder if there will be threads on RL where people bemoan the loss of involvement they had with PDK!
08-29-2013, 09:18 AM
#39
I know exactly what you mean. According to some pundits, the reason F1 banned CVT around the time Williams put it into a test car – besides the performance advantage, which was reportedly significant – is that racing fans like the sound of gear changes and RPM’s rapidly climbing and falling. They thought it would sound weird and ruin the show. As subjective as that is, I tend to agree. Just another example that not everything that goes faster is more fun. When CVT finally happens at the top of the automotive food chain, I hope they find a way to make it fun. I wonder if there will be threads on RL where people bemoan the loss of involvement they had with PDK!
And I think there will be similar threads like the current threads on the PDK.
"Progress" for a compromise.
08-29-2013, 12:08 PM
#40
Burning Brakes
08-29-2013, 01:47 PM
#41
