Originally Posted by Nick

Since when are Porsche's exciting at regular speeds? All the ones I have owned required being near the limit to get the excitement out of the car.

Originally Posted by frayed

Very balanced article.

While a 458 killer, some of the appeal is gone due to the techno wizardry.

The thing that concerns me most is the stated lack of engagement at sane speeds.

Originally Posted by sunnyr

From reading the reviews, I more and more get the idea that the 991GT3 is a 458 Junior and a ridiculously awesome one at that - 95% of performance and probably even faster around a track for what? half the cost? - than being in the vain of previous GT3s.

Originally Posted by Manifold

I agree. I'll still say that the 911 ended with the 997, and the GT3 ended with the 997 GT3, crowned by the 4.0. We're in a new era now, for better and worse. Maybe comparison with the cars of the previous era is largely a waste of time, since Porsche has decisively moved on. Some of us will embrace the new ethos thankfully, others will warm to it gradually, and others will continue to reject it and lament. All are valid responses. Best solution, if feasible, may be to have multiple cars, since there are always tradeoffs and no car can be optimal on every criterion.

Originally Posted by Manifold

I agree. I'll still say that the 911 ended with the 997, and the GT3 ended with the 997 GT3, crowned by the 4.0. We're in a new era now, for better and worse. Maybe comparison with the cars of the previous era is largely a waste of time, since Porsche has decisively moved on. Some of us will embrace the new ethos thankfully, others will warm to it gradually, and others will continue to reject it and lament. All are valid responses. Best solution, if feasible, may be to have multiple cars, since there are always tradeoffs and no car can be optimal on every criterion.

Originally Posted by Mike in CA

I guess I must be too easy. I've been engaged driving all of my Porsches, even including my Cayenne S which is a KITA. Heck, I even enjoy climbing into my wife's torquey little diesel A3 TDI. As I've said before I drove MT's for decades, but there are so many things that I love about driving, and always have, that go way beyond just rowing a stick.

Honestly, not to step on anyone's toes, but the idea that someone thinks they might possibly be bored driving the 991 GT3 that I've seen being flogged in the various videos that are out there, even in a daily drive on the street, just blows me away. Some of you must be impossibly hard to please!

Originally Posted by MM3.9GT3

The best way to avoid boredom is to paddle shift the PDK, and not keep it in auto mode. By doing so, I control the shift points, both up and down, just like a manual. If I feel like letting the engine rev to 7000 rpm in first gear, I can do it. If I want to down shift from third to second, when doing so will cause the engine to rev at 7500 rpm, I can do so.

I do agree 100% that people talking about being bored with GT3s and Ferraris to be comical at best. These are classic first World, top 0.1% problems.

Originally Posted by Macca

I took a 997 GT3 for a test drive in traffic. Couldn't believe how stiff the clutch is on these cars. I swear its wasn't like that on my 6 GT3 or 993RS. I couldn't daily drive it in the city. Open the taps on a clear bit of road and its all different...

Originally Posted by sunnyr

From reading the reviews, I more and more get the idea that the 991GT3 is a 458 Junior and a ridiculously awesome one at that - 95% of performance and probably even faster around a track for what? half the cost? - than being in the vain of previous GT3s.

Originally Posted by Porsche.collector

come on....yes the clutch is difficult...but even my girlfriend can drive this car..she said that the clutch is difficult but managble..and she is aroung 50Kgs..if she can do that you should be able do that as well..

PS: she doesnt like PdK boxes either..she ordered her audi on purpose with manual...

Originally Posted by Porsche.collector

Yes..I fully agree that the 991 GT3 is a performance bargain..while the 991S is a completely overpriced piece of..

458 Killer: remains to be seen, GT2RS can kill a 458..but its a slow death for the 458..and I cant believe that the 991 GT3 will destroy a 458 after 1 lap by huge distances...dont forget it still has 100HP more...a bit more weight ..but still..

Sport Auto will give us the answer..and also whether the 991 GT3 will use tires that will collapse during wet conditions...as was already the case with the 991S; 997.2 GT3RS...