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Old 05-07-2013, 01:15 PM
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^ I see the SMR as a track tire which needs heat, not an autox tire. Will likely have them on track this weekend with the Cayman R.
Old 05-07-2013, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
^ I see the SMR as a track tire which needs heat, not an autox tire. Will likely have them on track this weekend with the Cayman R.
That's what I expected too, but I overheated them on the autocross to the point that they got greasy and went off. Needed to cool the fronts with water spray to keep temps in check, and I dropped almost a second when I did that. I was surprised I overheated them so easily- never did that with the R-S3s.
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So far, they don't sound impressive.

Petevb, am I wrong in taking away that you prefer the MPSSs?
I like the MPSS, but they are no R-compound and the sidewalls are way too mushy for me.
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Originally Posted by stevecolletti
So far, they don't sound impressive.

Petevb, am I wrong in taking away that you prefer the MPSSs?
I like the MPSS, but they are no R-compound and the sidewalls are way too mushy for me.
For the street I prefer the MPSS currently, though I really need to get more camber in my car to make a fair comparison. I agree the PSS sidewalls are soft, turn-in is not sharp. If you don't like the mushy sidewall of the PSS I don't think you'll like these. So far breakaway seems more progressive and predictable on the PSS, which is something I especially value in a street tire. Normally an R compound will be better than a street tire in that respect, but with these that doesn't seem the case.

I suspect that with a proper alignment these tires will be very fast, but I need to get camber plates and add a degree and a half of camber to test that theory. If they are fun or tricky to drive at the limit remains to be seen. I have a feeling that you may need to be pretty tidy to make them work, which generally isn't my preference.
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Originally Posted by Petevb
For the street I prefer the MPSS currently, though I really need to get more camber in my car to make a fair comparison. I agree the PSS sidewalls are soft, turn-in is not sharp. If you don't like the mushy sidewall of the PSS I don't think you'll like these. So far breakaway seems more progressive and predictable on the PSS, which is something I especially value in a street tire. Normally an R compound will be better than a street tire in that respect, but with these that doesn't seem the case.

I suspect that with a proper alignment these tires will be very fast, but I need to get camber plates and add a degree and a half of camber to test that theory. If they are fun or tricky to drive at the limit remains to be seen. I have a feeling that you may need to be pretty tidy to make them work, which generally isn't my preference.
Thanks! Exactly what I was hoping for.

Manifold, do you have RSS LCAs on your CR?
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Originally Posted by Petevb
That's what I expected too, but I overheated them on the autocross to the point that they got greasy and went off. Needed to cool the fronts with water spray to keep temps in check, and I dropped almost a second when I did that. I was surprised I overheated them so easily- never did that with the R-S3s.
Strange ... you'd think the 991 GT3 and C63 BS would come with a tire which can handle the heat. Maybe the problem was more excessive tire pressure rather than heat?

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I suspect that with a proper alignment these tires will be very fast, but I need to get camber plates and add a degree and a half of camber to test that theory. If they are fun or tricky to drive at the limit remains to be seen. I have a feeling that you may need to be pretty tidy to make them work, which generally isn't my preference.
What are your current alignment specs?

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Manifold, do you have RSS LCAs on your CR?
No LCAs on the CR. IIRC, front camber is 1.5, rear camber is 2.3, a little bit of front toe out, a little bit of rear toe in.
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Originally Posted by Manifold
What are your current alignment specs?
-1.3 degrees front, -1.5 degrees rear. Guys with camber plates run around -3 degrees on the front of the 1M. Outside front was getting ~30 degrees hotter than the inside.



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