What do we know about the 991TTT?
03-28-2013, 11:12 AM
#47
unremarkable..well yes and no..the wing is completely ugly..the side intake vents - although not final yet..
..the back looks too much GTr - ized.
this is the most ugly 911 turbo ever..991 standard and 991 GT3..look way better. The 4 exhaust tips..are just the tip of the iceberg.
991 GT3 looks way better..
..the back looks too much GTr - ized. this is the most ugly 911 turbo ever..991 standard and 991 GT3..look way better. The 4 exhaust tips..are just the tip of the iceberg.
991 GT3 looks way better..
Porsche.
Ever?
Maybe someone can photochop this to read "Worst. Porsche. Ever." :
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03-28-2013, 11:44 AM
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The gap narrows between the TTT and the GT3
A more advanced AWD system will make the TTT relatively lighter and do more with PDK an dthe rest of the P options.
My guess optioned the same both PDK bot regular seats the TTT will be better for street driving and faster on the track. Both might have similar bumbness for a track car anyway, bot will be heavier than a C2S...
I'm sure the TTT price will be eye watering but this time it may be more clear if is worth a few extra dollars for those daily driving and do an occasional track day?
A more advanced AWD system will make the TTT relatively lighter and do more with PDK an dthe rest of the P options.
My guess optioned the same both PDK bot regular seats the TTT will be better for street driving and faster on the track. Both might have similar bumbness for a track car anyway, bot will be heavier than a C2S...
I'm sure the TTT price will be eye watering but this time it may be more clear if is worth a few extra dollars for those daily driving and do an occasional track day?
03-28-2013, 01:46 PM
#49
Drifting
p.s. my car weights 3180lbs with 1/2 tank of fuel. Full interior. Not to far off a 997.2 GT3/rs.
03-28-2013, 02:00 PM
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That's a light turbo. How the heck did you get that without losing the interior parts. Mine weights 3385 with full tank of gas and I've taken out the back seats and spare tire. Also has the standard audio system and not the upgraded bose.
03-28-2013, 02:02 PM
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What I can tell you is that if you look at the GT-R's crazy times (1:29 at Road Atlanta on MPSS, 1:56 at VIR on MPSS), a 996/997 TT is capable of the same with big HP and lots of DF. But you only get 3 laps if that at that pace.
03-28-2013, 02:18 PM
#52
Drifting
- the fix rear wing mount i make( gets rid of hydraulic stuff)
-solid motor mounts (ligher then oem! every lb counts)
-my exhaust weights 15 lbs
-light wheels ( my fronts weight 19lbs and rears 21.5)
-lwfw
-no rear wiper..
etc...
theirs a lot of little things like that, that i have reduced, it all adds up. .. the neat thing is i have the drive ability of a Turbo and the track weapon of a GT3 + some.
03-28-2013, 02:24 PM
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-gt3 bucket seats ( saves a lot of weight)
- the fix rear wing mount i make( gets rid of hydraulic stuff)
-solid motor mounts (ligher then oem! every lb counts)
-my exhaust weights 15 lbs
-light wheels ( my fronts weight 19lbs and rears 21.5)
-lwfw
-no rear wiper..
etc...
theirs a lot of little things like that, that i have reduced, it all adds up. .. the neat thing is i have the drive ability of a Turbo and the track weapon of a GT3 + some.
- the fix rear wing mount i make( gets rid of hydraulic stuff)
-solid motor mounts (ligher then oem! every lb counts)
-my exhaust weights 15 lbs
-light wheels ( my fronts weight 19lbs and rears 21.5)
-lwfw
-no rear wiper..
etc...
theirs a lot of little things like that, that i have reduced, it all adds up. .. the neat thing is i have the drive ability of a Turbo and the track weapon of a GT3 + some.
03-28-2013, 02:28 PM
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The gap narrows between the TTT and the GT3
A more advanced AWD system will make the TTT relatively lighter and do more with PDK an dthe rest of the P options.
My guess optioned the same both PDK bot regular seats the TTT will be better for street driving and faster on the track. Both might have similar bumbness for a track car anyway, bot will be heavier than a C2S...
I'm sure the TTT price will be eye watering but this time it may be more clear if is worth a few extra dollars for those daily driving and do an occasional track day?
A more advanced AWD system will make the TTT relatively lighter and do more with PDK an dthe rest of the P options.
My guess optioned the same both PDK bot regular seats the TTT will be better for street driving and faster on the track. Both might have similar bumbness for a track car anyway, bot will be heavier than a C2S...
I'm sure the TTT price will be eye watering but this time it may be more clear if is worth a few extra dollars for those daily driving and do an occasional track day?
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/03/28/s...new-york-2013/
03-28-2013, 02:30 PM
#55
-gt3 bucket seats ( saves a lot of weight)
- the fix rear wing mount i make( gets rid of hydraulic stuff)
-solid motor mounts (ligher then oem! every lb counts)
-my exhaust weights 15 lbs
-light wheels ( my fronts weight 19lbs and rears 21.5)
-lwfw
-no rear wiper..
etc...
theirs a lot of little things like that, that i have reduced, it all adds up. .. the neat thing is i have the drive ability of a Turbo and the track weapon of a GT3 + some.
- the fix rear wing mount i make( gets rid of hydraulic stuff)
-solid motor mounts (ligher then oem! every lb counts)
-my exhaust weights 15 lbs
-light wheels ( my fronts weight 19lbs and rears 21.5)
-lwfw
-no rear wiper..
etc...
theirs a lot of little things like that, that i have reduced, it all adds up. .. the neat thing is i have the drive ability of a Turbo and the track weapon of a GT3 + some.
What kind of times are you running consistently at Laguna, Sears, Thunderhill for a given tire?
03-28-2013, 03:05 PM
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Seats should be one of the first things on your list, if not for weight, but bolstering on the track and harnesses. It's a huge weight savings though.
Buy a used main carpet for cheap online, peel and shave the bottom insulation off of it and put it in. 25lbs gone. I did this before I decided to go the lightweight route vs the big hp route.
Buy a used main carpet for cheap online, peel and shave the bottom insulation off of it and put it in. 25lbs gone. I did this before I decided to go the lightweight route vs the big hp route.
03-28-2013, 03:12 PM
#58
Drifting
p.s. yes on light battery already. I have the Porsche bolt on rear cage.
03-28-2013, 04:01 PM
#59
Drifting
On street tires. On the fat and sticky RS 3.8/4.0 MPSC 245/325, the 997TTS would drop 5-7 secs from that 7:32 lap, lapping faster than the 4.0RS.
We have a local 997TTS running on Hoosiers, and it cleans the clock of everything on a racetrack with an intermediate driver.
VW handicaps the 997TTS with crappy tires.
We have a local 997TTS running on Hoosiers, and it cleans the clock of everything on a racetrack with an intermediate driver.
VW handicaps the 997TTS with crappy tires.
Ah right the 3's are all about feel. I have a gut feeling the new 991 3' VW beetle wont be able to say that anymore
03-28-2013, 04:06 PM
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I wonder if Hoosiers are totally safe for the integrated dry-sump 9A1? I have a suspicion that the new TTS (if not also the TT or TTT, whatever) will use a turbocharged verison of the new dry-sump GT3 motor. Some slicks on a new TTS should be incredibly fast on track (especially where I live at high altitude).
