Ferrari F1 vs new version PDK?
03-26-2013, 05:01 PM
#31
Thanks, but my specific question was in response to the statement by cgomez that with a single clutch automanual it was still a "manual" because "you could manually select any gear your choose". Is a single single clutch manual somehow different in that respect from PDK in manual mode?
But, to the reason for calling a single clutch an automated manual vs a dual clutch .... is that mechanically it is exactly that. Terminator is operating the same clutch and the same linkages for you, though in some cases the orientation of the gearing does not lend to the same H pattern humans are used to. It is also a TERRIBLE automatic in most implementations I've seen, so people rarely use it in automatic mode, track or otherwise. Maybe a way to think of it is that it has so many downsides as an fully automatic user experience, that it might be a tougher sell to call it an automatic. Dual clutch on the other hand is a totally different animal...it is so fast under most circumstances, and the disruption of power is so tiny (if any), that in automatic mode it really can take completely over for the driver and do a good job cruising or at the track.
03-27-2013, 11:49 AM
#32
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So true!
I personally prefer the feel and most importantly lower weight of the ingle clutch automated clutch manuals (still a manual because you "manually" can select any gear you choose). PDK and double clutch are becoming the preferred choice only because they work better as full automatic (mode) and do better in Fuel Economy tests (in auto mode).
If companies were building track/race cars from scratch with disregard for Auto mode, they will certainly all come to single clutch automated solution (the RSR, and all GTE cars already are).
I personally prefer the feel and most importantly lower weight of the ingle clutch automated clutch manuals (still a manual because you "manually" can select any gear you choose). PDK and double clutch are becoming the preferred choice only because they work better as full automatic (mode) and do better in Fuel Economy tests (in auto mode).
If companies were building track/race cars from scratch with disregard for Auto mode, they will certainly all come to single clutch automated solution (the RSR, and all GTE cars already are).
Thanks, but my specific question was in response to the statement by cgomez that with a single clutch automanual it was still a "manual" because "you could manually select any gear your choose". Is a single single clutch manual somehow different in that respect from PDK in manual mode?
03-27-2013, 11:50 AM
#33
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03-27-2013, 01:16 PM
#34
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What is the difference now between these transmissions especially related to the new GT3? You hear so many people lambasting the PDK as an automatic transmission, but one hears very little criticism for the F cars. I would love to hear from folks who have owned/driven both. You usually see people driving the Ferraris in sporty fashion using the shift padddles. Do they also set it up so you can drive it in auto/sport plus mode like the Porsche? I'm thinking about trying the PDK coming from a long history of MTs.
Jim
Jim
03-27-2013, 02:34 PM
#35
Race Director
That's what I thought. PDK also has the "double click" feature, ie the ability to flick the paddle and have it skip a gear(s) going down as well as being able to hold the paddle and have it keep downshifting until you let go.
Last edited by Mike in CA; 03-29-2013 at 07:16 PM.
