The 991 GT3 is the new 996.1 GT3!
03-21-2013, 11:32 PM
#106
This is the original 1998 996.1 GT3 Cup
Porsche took this race car, made it street legal, and released the 996.1 GT3 street car, a copy of the race car made street legal. Same aero, same engine, same transmission, same brakes, just a softer suspension for street use and the safety required on a race car.
For the next 14 years, this race proven engine made it to both the GT3 Cup and the GT3 street car.
The 991 Wannabe-GT3 shares nothing in particular with the real GT3. It is not a street version of a race car, it is a street car focused on street use, spirited street use.
This wannabe-GT3 will be a sales success for VW, because they have added a cheaper engine, while increasing MSRP, and it is sold with an automatic transmission (most people love auto boxes). However, it will be more boring than the previous car due to PDK, extra weight, sofa seats.
Porsche took this race car, made it street legal, and released the 996.1 GT3 street car, a copy of the race car made street legal. Same aero, same engine, same transmission, same brakes, just a softer suspension for street use and the safety required on a race car.
For the next 14 years, this race proven engine made it to both the GT3 Cup and the GT3 street car.
The 991 Wannabe-GT3 shares nothing in particular with the real GT3. It is not a street version of a race car, it is a street car focused on street use, spirited street use.
This wannabe-GT3 will be a sales success for VW, because they have added a cheaper engine, while increasing MSRP, and it is sold with an automatic transmission (most people love auto boxes). However, it will be more boring than the previous car due to PDK, extra weight, sofa seats.
Basic philosophical question, should Porsche label a model a "GT3" if the model has no race pedigree?
03-22-2013, 12:08 AM
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10GT3....No race pedigree ....yet
Unless you are better informed than us or have a crystal ball then such comments may be fairly short lived!
Unless you are better informed than us or have a crystal ball then such comments may be fairly short lived!
03-22-2013, 02:09 PM
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perhaps they should hsave ended the "GT3" name with the 2011 model year and introduced a new 991 name such as "Carrera R" and soon to arrive "Carrera RS".
03-23-2013, 08:12 AM
#111
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Or perhaps 911 "GTR"... 
03-28-2013, 09:52 AM
#113
Agree. It started as a technical term, now it is just another brand ripe for the picking. What exactly is "GT3" about this new GT3?
03-28-2013, 10:39 AM
#114
If Porsche goes on to race this engine and especially this transmission, then this GT3 will be "more" of a GT3 "road car" and more in common with the 991 GT3 Cup (so to speak) than its predecessors.
If there's any substantial complaints about the 991 GT3, the issues revolve around curb weight and the demise of the third pedal actuation of the clutch.
I'm not losing any sleep over PDK. I'm still concerned about electric steering assist. I'm not at all impressed by the 991 GT3 being 200 or 300 lbs heavier than I think Porsche could have done straight out of the parts bin, but they're apparently leaving the lightweight goods as differentiation for the RS.
The problem being, early adopters of the 991.1 GT3 will have "the heavy one" and the 991.2 GT3 (and whatever RS) will surely benefit from a lighter car.
