Andreas Preuninger and the 991 gt3 - and 10RS
03-15-2013, 06:35 PM
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But, AP is not a "marketing guy". Those are his words, and the implication is that marketing guys spin the facts while engineering guys tell the truth. Right now, his credibility is so low that a hooker claiming to be a virgin will be more believable than AP.
03-15-2013, 07:02 PM
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I was trying to throw AP a bone since he obviously has his hands tied. I agree, he has no credibility now, at least as far as many enthusiasts are concerned.
But it's possible that this was not his decision and he's been forced to go along with it and thereby defend it. That may not be in his control. Hard to pass judgement on that. I mean this is VW Porsche and all.
But it's possible that this was not his decision and he's been forced to go along with it and thereby defend it. That may not be in his control. Hard to pass judgement on that. I mean this is VW Porsche and all.
03-15-2013, 07:17 PM
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...or maybe he was not convinced of PDK earlier, but has now changed his mind after testing manual and PDK equipped GT3's side by side.
We don't know and we should not judge him without knowing the full story.
We don't know and we should not judge him without knowing the full story.
03-15-2013, 07:37 PM
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03-15-2013, 07:45 PM
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AP is an embarrassment to Ferdinand Porsche and to the Porsche name in general. He's also an embarrassment to Germans in general,which are known for their word and correctitude.
03-15-2013, 07:47 PM
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03-15-2013, 07:56 PM
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And guys, please no politics in here. We have the perfect place to discuss them (and probably nobody will read them..).
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03-15-2013, 08:45 PM
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His credibility is ruined regardless. Im trying to give him the benefit of the doubt though anything he says now will be taken with a grain of salt.
03-15-2013, 09:09 PM
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So you believed every word of Porsche marketing up until now? There is never credibility in marketing and all these magazine and video interviews are nothing else than clever marketing. It has nothing with AP to do. He just represents his employer.
03-15-2013, 09:18 PM
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Let's face it : we are just a bunch of enthusiasts and were able to dig this dirt yet a big company like Porsche couldn't straighten this out. They have a whole PR department and their employees need to know and measure EXACTLY every word that comes out of their mouth because it can turn against them,which it did!
03-15-2013, 09:21 PM
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And his employer should've looked back on what his employee said not too long ago and make sure he somehow washes his hands.
Let's face it : we are just a bunch of enthusiasts and were able to dig this dirt yet a big company like Porsche couldn't straighten this out. They have a whole PR department and their employees need to know and measure EXACTLY every word that comes out of their mouth because it can turn against them,which it did!
Let's face it : we are just a bunch of enthusiasts and were able to dig this dirt yet a big company like Porsche couldn't straighten this out. They have a whole PR department and their employees need to know and measure EXACTLY every word that comes out of their mouth because it can turn against them,which it did!
More to the point, the 991 GT3 and the new engine didn't even exist when he made those statements. It seems possible, and all the other issues aside, that after testing the manual and PDK with the new powerplant the revised 7sp PDK proved to be a better match than the 6 speed manual. Reasonable people can change their minds when presented with new information and circumstances. Just a thought.
03-15-2013, 09:43 PM
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Something to consider, the Top Gear interview was in April 2010. The Edmunds quote was from October 2009. There have been significant advances in the PDK since then.
More to the point, the 991 GT3 and the new engine didn't even exist when he made those statements. It seems possible, and all the other issues aside, that after testing the manual and PDK with the new powerplant the revised 7sp PDK proved to be a better match than the 6 speed manual. Reasonable people can change their minds when presented with new information and circumstances. Just a thought.
More to the point, the 991 GT3 and the new engine didn't even exist when he made those statements. It seems possible, and all the other issues aside, that after testing the manual and PDK with the new powerplant the revised 7sp PDK proved to be a better match than the 6 speed manual. Reasonable people can change their minds when presented with new information and circumstances. Just a thought.
I understand PDK is a much faster,better transmission and I'm glad they're offering it,but should we really believe that Porsche couldn't have made the effort to offer both on this iconic sports/track raw car?!
I will admit something here : I used to be one of the people,at the beginning of my time on this board,making fun of folks driving an automatic transmission,yet I was so wrong! I've learned in time that the people I was making fun of were enthusiasts like me that drove manuals for longer than I was born but chose to drive an automatic for other reasons and I respect that! Why can't Porsche respect us too and give us a manual?