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savyboy 03-10-2013 11:36 AM

Atgani, that press release is hilarious! Thank you for the morning belly laughs. In all fairness, it takes a shot at everything and everybody. Important to take a break from the asylum burning and have a restorative laugh. Now where did I lay that darn torch...

mdrums 03-10-2013 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by 911rox (Post 10288339)
Interviews now with both Evo and Car yet nobody has questioned AP on the centrelocks, the dozen or so failures, the two recalls and the new, ridiculous maintenance schedule!!! Gee, I wonder why? Happy to bet a dollar or two that Porsche are placing a no-go zone on that discussion!!!

Maybe in order to get an interview with Mr. AP the interviewer must agree not to ask questions pertaining to center lock wheels and or past failures of this product.

prg 03-10-2013 12:20 PM

Atgani, that's awesome!

Every Porsche I've ever driven has been a little (sometimes a lot) better than the last.

jumper5836 03-10-2013 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by speed21 (Post 10288249)
Respectfully not directing this entirely at you but don't forget this is 2013, not 2009 or 2010. Statements made in times gone will always be just statements made without having any first hand experience of todays latest GT3 technology. If AP says any prior GT3 is not better than the new 991GT3 car (RS 4.0 inc) then he ought to know. Although hang on...he's just being paid to say that right?:rolleyes:

This new car is gonna be an absolute cracker, but i suspect all the naysayers know that and are out there hammering away:to_order: on their :soapbox:box without even having driven the car. So typical.....:roflmao:

Progress, sometimes really sucks. Look at the Mayans and in this case he knew that the technology existed, he answered those questions when asked why the GT3 didn't get pdk as an option. It's all BS and a switch to sell more cars to a different (larger) market.

And I agree, it will be an amazing car and it looks good. But without manual there is no way I would buy this car unless it was for bought my wife to drive and win DE.

Atgani 03-10-2013 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by savyboy (Post 10289449)
Atgani, that press release is hilarious! Thank you for the morning belly laughs. In all fairness, it takes a shot at everything and everybody. Important to take a break from the asylum burning and have a restorative laugh. Now where did I lay that darn torch...

Exactly how it was intended savyboy :thumbsup:

Chris M. 03-10-2013 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor (Post 10278000)
+1



Respectfully disagree. He comes across as the marketing guy he is, just as he did when he extolled the virtues of the 997.2 faux centerlocks...




+2

+3. Reading that the new engine was 25kg lighter was really impressive until I also read that the entire car is 70kg heavier. What a joke. This is about appealing to Ferrari, Lambo, and GT-R owners.

MM3.9GT3 03-11-2013 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Atgani (Post 10290127)
Exactly how it was intended savyboy :thumbsup:

One of the funniest parodies I have ever read. Thanks.


Originally Posted by Chris M. (Post 10290419)
+3. Reading that the new engine was 25kg lighter was really impressive until I also read that the entire car is 70kg heavier. What a joke. This is about appealing to Ferrari, Lambo, and GT-R owners.

I was not in the market for a 991 GT3. Should I order one? Stereotyping is a form of social judgement, and there is plenty of that regarding Porsche drivers too.


Originally Posted by mdrums (Post 10289452)
Maybe in order to get an interview with Mr. AP the interviewer must agree not to ask questions pertaining to center lock wheels and or past failures of this product.

That is how the game is played by most manufacturers. The questions are scripted, and if you throw a couple of curve balls, you are not granted another interview for a few years. If you really step out of line, you are not invited to all inclusive press launches in exotic locations, with free business class tickets.

F1CrazyDriver 03-11-2013 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by savyboy (Post 10289449)
Atgani, that press release is hilarious! Thank you for the morning belly laughs. In all fairness, it takes a shot at everything and everybody. Important to take a break from the asylum burning and have a restorative laugh. Now where did I lay that darn torch...


Savy, from your post, I sense you are callinbg BS on Mr. Andreas, and you are not going to drink his cool-aid anymore. :)

997 4.0 vs. 991 GT3. They lap the same lap times around the ring. 991 weights a bit more. Has rear steer( more stable), has the magical PDK that gains .5 car length per shift. ( I wonder how many shifts there is in one lap at the ring, that is a lot of car lengths gained! *sarcasm), and a buncha other cool-aid from Andreas.

So the analog old school machine laps just as fast. Yes it only has 25 bhp more and less weight. Not all the fancy stuff (RWS/PDK/ Bigger brakes/ and standard navi to tell me where i'm going, and the increase of 500 rpm, that Andreas claims it is magical and very much needed... hmm decisions.


A Gt2RS still does it in the 7:1X's with analog.

Forget all this car sutff ill keep driving the model S and let you guys fight over driver involvement! :thumbsup:

savyboy 03-11-2013 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by F1CrazyDriver (Post 10292514)
Savy, from your post, I sense you are callinbg BS on Mr. Andreas, and you are not going to drink his cool-aid anymore. :)

Enrique- just burned out on the whole marketing vs reality BS. Porsche buyers pay a higher premium for a given technology than any other car buyers, they make more profit off of us than any other car company and we are treated like we have leprosy after we buy the car. I'm soured on all the misrepresentations (*lies*) from the marketing side and the disrespect from the management side. No reason to believe anything will change. We are walking wallets to VAG, nothing more. Not a business I want to support any longer. Other mfg's more honest/transparent/integrity.

Hey man, hope you are well and doing fine! :thumbup:

StirlingMoss 03-12-2013 02:15 AM


Originally Posted by savyboy (Post 10293087)
Enrique- just burned out on the whole marketing vs reality BS. Porsche buyers pay a higher premium for a given technology than any other car buyers, they make more profit off of us than any other car company...

Did you realise that only now? A fully spec'ed 911 cost almost twice as much as a fully spec'ed Cayman. Does it actually cost more to build a 911? Nah. 95% of the parts are identical. It is nothing than a premium, always been, always will.

There is a reason Porsche has been the most profitable car manufacturer ever ;)

stout 03-12-2013 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by 911rox (Post 10289213)
Its all good fellas! We got the 2014 911 GT3 jam packed with FOCA (full of crap as) and FIGJAM (f'k its good, just ask me) technologies that the masses have been asking for! :thumbup: Really wasn't any point to spending hours at cars and coffee drafting a 10 page letter, but hey, each to their own ;)

Oh....it's only March but I think FIGJAM may be the funniest thing I read on Rennlist in 2013...

Priceless. Thanks for the laugh. I needed that. :cheers:

pete

DC640 03-12-2013 03:50 AM

I wanted to believe the letter until I read the new gearbox name.. while laughing I still wanted to believe.. lol

BBMGT3 03-12-2013 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by F1CrazyDriver (Post 10292514)
Savy, from your post, I sense you are callinbg BS on Mr. Andreas, and you are not going to drink his cool-aid anymore. :)

997 4.0 vs. 991 GT3. They lap the same lap times around the ring. 991 weights a bit more. Has rear steer( more stable), has the magical PDK that gains .5 car length per shift. ( I wonder how many shifts there is in one lap at the ring, that is a lot of car lengths gained! *sarcasm), and a buncha other cool-aid from Andreas.

So the analog old school machine laps just as fast. Yes it only has 25 bhp more and less weight. Not all the fancy stuff (RWS/PDK/ Bigger brakes/ and standard navi to tell me where i'm going, and the increase of 500 rpm, that Andreas claims it is magical and very much needed... hmm decisions.


A Gt2RS still does it in the 7:1X's with analog.

Forget all this car sutff ill keep driving the model S and let you guys fight over driver involvement! :thumbsup:

i suspect the 991 time is very conservative.

I also suspect that the Dunlops are crap.

Slowekistan 03-12-2013 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by jumper5836 (Post 10289763)
unless it was for bought my wife to drive and win DE.

:roflmao:

9972RS 03-12-2013 07:37 AM

is it just me or has Andreas Preuniger lost all credibility?

He sold us the 997 gt3. It didn't need PDK because it was heavy and un-necessary. The steering was amazing and allowed for excellent feedback. Centerlocks would allow for better track day cars. Except that your warranty would be void.

Now, he's selling us the 991gt3. The PDK is amazing, quickest shifts, etc. The electric steering allows for excellent road feel and feedback. The centerlocks were revised.

what a crock of sh!t. it's too bad all the car manufacturers are the same. I thought porsche would've kept the GT3 a drivers car. oh well, it's the lesser of two evils.


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