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Slowekistan 03-09-2013 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Mike in CA (Post 10287512)
The steering assembly has not been eliminated. There is still a mechanical connection, with conventional steering linkages and a steering rack all the way from the steering wheel to the front hubs. The difference is that there is now an electric motor integral with the steering rack that provides power assist instead of the previous hydraulic system. This eliminates all of the hydraulic lines, hydraulic fluid, and the parasitic hydraulic pump running off of the engine. Supposedly the software controlling the electric assist has been completely redone for the GT3 and the claim is that steering feel is as good as the previous system. TBD.

+1

Thank you.

Ahmet 03-09-2013 05:55 PM

I'm surprised electric power steering assist didn't come sooner to the 911 considering that the benefits of removing the power steering rack and the hydraulic lines running to the front of the car seem the greatest with a rear engine layout.

speed21 03-09-2013 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by jumper5836 (Post 10280390)
Yeah or neigh

Andreas Preuninger: PDK and Paddles ( what he said at the Gen 2 RS Launch in 2010 )
no heavy, flappy paddle gearbox (Preuninger: "Grandmas can use paddles. They aren't challenging")
Source Top Gear


But Preuninger didn't burden us with the technicalities. Instead he said, "First, the PDK weighs 66 pounds. Second, PDK does not have a clutch you can control, and if you want to do really big drifts, sometimes you need a clutch."

Then he said, "The manual gearbox in the GT3 is the best match for the purist."
Source Porsche 911 GT3 First Drive Video. | October 01, 2009 | Edmunds

Respectfully not directing this entirely at you but don't forget this is 2013, not 2009 or 2010. Statements made in times gone will always be just statements made without having any first hand experience of todays latest GT3 technology. If AP says any prior GT3 is not better than the new 991GT3 car (RS 4.0 inc) then he ought to know. Although hang on...he's just being paid to say that right?:rolleyes:

This new car is gonna be an absolute cracker, but i suspect all the naysayers know that and are out there hammering away:to_order: on their :soapbox:box without even having driven the car. So typical.....:roflmao:

911rox 03-09-2013 08:05 PM

Interviews now with both Evo and Car yet nobody has questioned AP on the centrelocks, the dozen or so failures, the two recalls and the new, ridiculous maintenance schedule!!! Gee, I wonder why? Happy to bet a dollar or two that Porsche are placing a no-go zone on that discussion!!!

wurlie 03-10-2013 05:46 AM

And in EVO interview, when asked directly, Preuninger avioded answering why the 991 Cup has a Mezger engine...
It is just a disappointment, that's all. The old connection (however kool-aided (sic)) that there is a direct link between a GT3 and the racing cars is not there any more. There are a very few upset people, still it hurts.
And there is a point savy has been making about the marketing machine which puts Porsche at the similar level (of disappointing manipulation) with some other manufacturers with long histories of sports car manufacturing.
It all sure leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Irrespective how much faster the new vanilla GT3 is than my 4.0. I actually do not mind that fact at all, and am happy to see progress. However, on the way, some core brand attributes/ values have been lost.
Best, w

StirlingMoss 03-10-2013 07:31 AM

There may well be legitimate reasons why Preuninger did not answer. Just because he did not answer this does not mean there is some conspiracy going on. It would not come as a surprise if the new engine shows up in the cup cars for the next season.

I also start to wonder who is really a victim of the marketing department. All this talk about motorsport connection, racing heritage, shared components, Mezger this and Mezger that, etc. This is all the stuff you have been fed from marketing brochures and adverts. No more marketing going on now with the new GT3 than before.

Atgani 03-10-2013 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by speed21 (Post 10288249)
Respectfully not directing this entirely at you but don't forget this is 2013, not 2009 or 2010. Statements made in times gone will always be just statements made without having any first hand experience of todays latest GT3 technology. If AP says any prior GT3 is not better than the new 991GT3 car (RS 4.0 inc) then he ought to know. Although hang on...he's just being paid to say that right?:rolleyes:

This new car is gonna be an absolute cracker, but i suspect all the naysayers know that and are out there hammering away:to_order: on their :soapbox:box without even having driven the car. So typical..... :roflmao:

So true, see the final page of this document :

Leaked (having been recovered from a Stuttgart taxi earlier today)

Some phrases need German to English translation, I've reproduced them from the document to make putting them into Google translate easier :

Maschinenstürmer

Es ist Scheiße, Es macht die Änderung auf dem 915 Getriebe fühle mich wie ein Gewehr Bolt

Ihre durchschnittliche Supermarkt Einkaufswagen lenkt besser


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StirlingMoss 03-10-2013 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Atgani (Post 10289198)
So true, see the final page of this document :

Leaked (having been recovered from a Stuttgart taxi earlier today)

Hahaha! :roflmao: Wally and the shopping trolley. Brilliant!

911rox 03-10-2013 08:23 AM

Its all good fellas! We got the 2014 911 GT3 jam packed with FOCA (full of crap as) and FIGJAM (f'k its good, just ask me) technologies that the masses have been asking for! :thumbup: Really wasn't any point to spending hours at cars and coffee drafting a 10 page letter, but hey, each to their own ;)

Atgani 03-10-2013 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by 911rox (Post 10289213)
Really wasn't any point to spending hours at cars and coffee drafting a 10 page letter)


Nor indeed whingeing on internet forums that Porsche AG have little or no regard for :banghead: But each to their (ironic) own eh ;)

911rox 03-10-2013 08:55 AM

If expressing an opinion is a crime then we are all guilty, both those for and against... Everyone will have an opinion, not necessarily one that falls in line with that from Porsche.

Thankfully to date, it hasn't been a forum rule that you must say nothing if you don't have anything nice to say (unless it relates to another forum member) ;) But again, to each their own indeed... :)

DRPM 03-10-2013 09:30 AM

To be fair, I'll save my opinion of what Porsche have done with the 991 GT3 till after I have a few hours of seat time on the track.

Atgani 03-10-2013 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by 911rox (Post 10289234)
If expressing an opinion is a crime then we are all guilty, both those for and against... Everyone will have an opinion, not necessarily one that falls in line with that from Porsche.

Thankfully to date, it hasn't been a forum rule that you must say nothing if you don't have anything nice to say (unless it relates to another forum member) ;) But again, to each their own indeed... :)

Oh dear. The contents of my first post seem to be lost on you.

Try one of these :

http://thumbsnap.com/s/OHN4JeEQ.jpg

and come back later when you're not feeling quite so uptight ;)

:)

911rox 03-10-2013 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Atgani (Post 10289305)
Oh dear. The contents of my first post seem to be lost on you.

Try one of these :

http://thumbsnap.com/s/OHN4JeEQ.jpg

and come back later when you're not feeling quite so uptight ;)

:)

Geez, one isn't blindly awe struck by pointless, gimmicky systems adopted by Porsche to whoa potential customers like DUMBASS- (dubious unnecessary moronic based active steering system) and immediately they are uptight and in need of chill pills, lmao... Thanx doc! :thumbup:

Veloce Raptor 03-10-2013 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by speed21 (Post 10288249)
If AP says any prior GT3 is not better than the new 991GT3 car (RS 4.0 inc) then he ought to know. Although hang on...he's just being paid to say that right?:rolleyes:

In fact he is being paid to say that...just as he was paid to extol the wonderfulness of the faux centerlocks on the 997.2's. :rolleyes:

Love the "press release" hahahahahaha!!! :thumbsup:


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