Bill_C4S

Having driven the new Cayman S the gap to the 997.1 gen GT3 - which I owned - is reduced materially..personal assertion as to whether its "not even close"

FWIW - Chris Harris on the new Cayman S:

P_collector

Hi Bill,

I drove the new boxtser-s the other day:

- yes, gap is certainly reduced (I also owned 3.6 GT3), chassis is much more stable -and superior to 997 GT3/GT2..but its a mid engined car..boxsters/caymans were probably always better
- steering - could have been worse..but no gt3 feeling- still good.
- PDK: Ok..shifts fast..but after 10 min it become boring for me
- biggest - and really biggest disappointment: Power and again Power, the 315PS doesnt come in any way near the 997.1 GT3..still a huge gap..only in 3rd gear at 4000rpm this car is moving "forward"..- the cayman wont be any faster.

I really like the new boxtster..but its what I guessed before I drove it..it convinces more by the looks..the performance despite the lower weight wasnt what I expected. Would I pay 80K for a new one?..probably not..a second hand one - one day..maybe yes..for a daily driver yes..but Chris Harris "fascination"..I didnt feel that.

Boxster Coupe GTS

Porsche 991 GT3 Cup on track at Monza...




...turn up the volume!

Boxster Coupe GTS

Porsche 991 GT3 Cup driven by Sebastien Loeb...

Nizer

Fantastic! Proper car, proper motor, proper trans. What the 991 GT3 could've been.

Jon70

I think this will essentially look like the 991 RS:
Wider front fenders
Smaller, but similar styled wing with third brake light integrated into rear bumper

frayed

Whoa. Downshifting while turning and locking up the inside wheels and still hammering through that corner.

frayed

So, you would prefer less power and a sequential gearbox for the street?

Nizer

I would prefer a proven race motor and less weight for both the street and the track, especially as Porsche's recent MO is to use its customers and their wallets as beta testers for new technology.

brownan

Agree. That's the 991 RS I want, not some marketing department BS.

Petevb

If by a "race proven motor" you mean Metzger, you're asking for comes with more weight, a lot of it, in the wrong place. Unless you're asking for them to prove this motor out by racing it, in which case we agree.

Larry Cable

I think you have to ask yourself "what" any RS might be; since the 991 GT3 is already using the 4S chassis, there is no longer that differentiator between the models.

Since AP appears to have "indirectly" stated that there is no manual transmission (given his comments regarding the development of the GT3 PDK) then there will be no differentiator there either...

since there is no manual, there is no l/w single mass vs dual mass flywheel either...

SO what is left:

- weight reduction
- aerodynamics/body styling
- engine performance
- chassis
- final drive ratio
- cosmetics (new bucket seats)

Naively I don't see much to differentiate any RS from the GT3 model...

Larry Cable

+1

wanna911

If you are still comparing a 13 Cayman to a 07 GT3, then we are saying the same thing.

Conekilr

It is rumoured that the 991 Turbo body is wider than the C4S, so this may be used on the RS ??