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Old 04-19-2013, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Agree with AP's comments re: PDK. Boring as all get out - right to auto after a few shifts.
As was stated in the article, those comments were with regard to initial iterations of PDK, not the GT3's PDK 3.0 as it was referred to. AP made it clear that he changed his mind after development and testing.
Old 04-19-2013, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by frayed

An immediate 40kg savings with the manual.
Interesting to note that this is now up from the original quote of 30kg gain for automatic.

Originally Posted by Mike in CA
As was stated in the article, those comments were with regard to initial iterations of PDK, not the GT3's PDK 3.0 as it was referred to. AP made it clear that he changed his mind after development and testing.
Appreciate your enthusiasm for automatics but I prefer to focus on who signs his paycheck when debating the merits of not offering a manual.
Old 04-19-2013, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Appreciate your enthusiasm for automatics but I prefer to focus on who signs his paycheck when debating the merits of not offering a manual.
I don't have a particular enthusiasm for automatics, but how I feel about them and whether you appreciate my feelings is neither here nor there. (Thanks, though).

You wrote that you agreed with AP (apparently despite who signs his paycheck) when he said that PDK was boring. I simply pointed out that his comment didn't refer to the version of PDK in the GT3, and the article made that clear.
Old 04-19-2013, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
You wrote that you agreed with AP (apparently despite who signs his paycheck) when he said that PDK was boring. I simply pointed out that his comment didn't refer to the version of PDK in the GT3, and the article made that clear.
Thanks. I completely missed that. And since we're being pedantic, if you do your homework you'll also find that AP championed center locks as a much better alternative to 5-lugs and stated numerous times that the GT3 must have a manual.
Old 04-19-2013, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Thanks. I completely missed that. And since we're being pedantic, if you do your homework you'll also find that AP championed center locks as a much better alternative to 5-lugs and stated numerous times that the GT3 must have a manual.
+1 I recall him stating as much in the 7.2 RS launch/walkaround video
Old 04-19-2013, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Thanks. I completely missed that. And since we're being pedantic, if you do your homework you'll also find that AP championed center locks as a much better alternative to 5-lugs and stated numerous times that the GT3 must have a manual.
You're the one who said you agreed with him!

Just trying to lighten the mood....no offense.
Old 04-19-2013, 07:25 PM
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I think some of you guys are on a witchhunt, or AP hunt.

Is AP likely biased b/c PAG signs his check? Sure. But, I don't interpret AP's prior statements as contradictory to his current representations.

AP did say that he was against the PDK box originally, then it eventually won him over after quite a bit of development. Perhaps it's all marketing and actually doesn't like the PDK as much as the manual, but that statement, to me, explains away his prior statement the GT cars have to have a manual.

With centerlocks, just like with ceramic brakes, the problem with the v.1 centerlocks wasn't the theory, but the execution. Now, PAG has reengineered the centerlocks. My money is on PAG on this one. . . I believe they've gotten it right this time.


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BTW, there is still going to be some sort of 50th Anniversary model (possibly with GT3 motor, fancy interior, retro ducktail spoiler, and priced above GT3) - I bet that has Manual...
That would be cool.
Old 04-19-2013, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by frayed
I think some of you guys are on a witchhunt, or AP hunt.
So, you're saying AP is a witch?
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LOL
Old 04-19-2013, 08:19 PM
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AP stated his initial concerns with PDK was the lack of speed in gear change. However, that was corrected when Porsche redesigned the PDK for the GT3. Much faster gear changes and more driver involvement. His benchmark was the 458 transmission and if I read his statement correctly he believes the PDK in the GT3 is even better than the 458.
Old 04-19-2013, 08:59 PM
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looks like my build would be about $138-139.
BTW is there a manual lumbar adjustment for the standard seat?
Old 04-19-2013, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
BTW, there is still going to be some sort of 50th Anniversary model (possibly with GT3 motor, fancy interior, retro ducktail spoiler, and priced above GT3) - I bet that has Manual...
That's the 50th anniversary manual, 535hp 4.2 mezger, base price 239k, right?
Old 04-20-2013, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe S.
That's the 50th anniversary manual, 535hp 4.2 mezger, base price 239k, right?
All that and coming in at 2850 lbs...with the lightweight, high amp, lithium battery...and oh yeah, bucket seats

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Old 04-20-2013, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill_C4S
2850 lbs...with the lightweight, high amp, lithium battery...and oh yeah, bucket seats
So you like a "momentum" 911 then.
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