Thinking about a GT3RS -- Advice Sought
#1
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Thinking about a GT3RS -- Advice Sought
After renting a 991.1 GT3RS for a trackday, I'm seriously thinking about trading my 991.1 C2 for a used 2016 991.1 GT3RS. Looking for some advice...
Thanks and happy motoring!
- Asking prices seem to be 165-175 for private party sales, (less for high mile track cars) with transaction prices perhaps $5K under ask, based on BAT results. These cars typically have 6-12 months of warranty remaining. CPO asking prices typically 175-190, transaction prices unknown, with prices in the northeast higher than the rest of the country. Is CPO worth the extra money? After factoring in transportation costs, it doesn't seem worth the hassle to buy a mid-west car and have it transported.
- If you moved to a GT3RS from a plain GT3 or a non-GT car, did you find yourself driving your 911 less often? If you drive it less, is it the extreme nature of the car? Fewer creature comforts (e.g. the LWB seats)? The conspicuousness? Wanting to preserve the value of the car?
- Do you have two (or more) sets of wheels? Do you swap wheels yourself? Have you ever dropped the rim on your PCCB rotor? Do you have a set of more "all-season" tires so that you can drive the car when it's below 40 F outside?
- Have you bottomed or scraped the front of your car beyond just scuffing the "sacrificial" rubber splitter lip?
- Do you have a front plate?
- When you track your car, do you buy the insurance?
- Are you happy that you bought the car? What are the best (and worst) things about owning a GT3RS?
Thanks and happy motoring!
#2
I think its very dependant on your priorities Daily driver Vs track toy etc. Also a lot would depend on the spec for example LWBs Vs 18 way. So many variables to consider.
I'm sure you'll get plenty of responses if you outline your planned usage
My primary use is tarmac rally - so for me, I accept the risks, however the rewards outstrip the risks from my perspective.
I'm sure you'll get plenty of responses if you outline your planned usage
My primary use is tarmac rally - so for me, I accept the risks, however the rewards outstrip the risks from my perspective.
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Well, my C2 is a wonderful daily driver that gets used for the occasional track day. It is OK for a track days, but limited by the overly tall gearing (especially 2 to 3), lack of support from the seat, and marginal oiling and irritating TPMS behavior when using Cup2 tires. The GT3RS is sublime on the track, but I hope to use it regularly on the street as well.
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After renting a 991.1 GT3RS for a trackday, I'm seriously thinking about trading my 991.1 C2 for a used 2016 991.1 GT3RS. Looking for some advice...
Thanks and happy motoring!
- Asking prices seem to be 165-175 for private party sales, (less for high mile track cars) with transaction prices perhaps $5K under ask, based on BAT results. These cars typically have 6-12 months of warranty remaining. CPO asking prices typically 175-190, transaction prices unknown, with prices in the northeast higher than the rest of the country. Is CPO worth the extra money? After factoring in transportation costs, it doesn't seem worth the hassle to buy a mid-west car and have it transported.
- If you moved to a GT3RS from a plain GT3 or a non-GT car, did you find yourself driving your 911 less often? If you drive it less, is it the extreme nature of the car? Fewer creature comforts (e.g. the LWB seats)? The conspicuousness? Wanting to preserve the value of the car?
- Do you have two (or more) sets of wheels? Do you swap wheels yourself? Have you ever dropped the rim on your PCCB rotor? Do you have a set of more "all-season" tires so that you can drive the car when it's below 40 F outside?
- Have you bottomed or scraped the front of your car beyond just scuffing the "sacrificial" rubber splitter lip?
- Do you have a front plate?
- When you track your car, do you buy the insurance?
- Are you happy that you bought the car? What are the best (and worst) things about owning a GT3RS?
Thanks and happy motoring!
GT3 to RS....Drive it the same....value of the car is how much you can drive it, not how much you think it might be worth at some point in the future....feel bad for people that buy a car with that in mind
No
No, except to stick one on for inspection....
No
Yes
Just buy the car, it will not disappoint....you have roughly until the end of November/ middle of December to drive it being where you are.....don't think too much or you'll miss out on some quality miles....
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After renting a 991.1 GT3RS for a trackday, I'm seriously thinking about trading my 991.1 C2 for a used 2016 991.1 GT3RS. Looking for some advice...
Thanks and happy motoring!
- Asking prices seem to be 165-175 for private party sales, (less for high mile track cars) with transaction prices perhaps $5K under ask, based on BAT results. These cars typically have 6-12 months of warranty remaining. CPO asking prices typically 175-190, transaction prices unknown, with prices in the northeast higher than the rest of the country. Is CPO worth the extra money? After factoring in transportation costs, it doesn't seem worth the hassle to buy a mid-west car and have it transported.
- Get CPO and transport if you find the car you want somewhere else. West coast prices are higher than NE IMO. The cost to transport will soon be forgotten but not getting the spec you want won't.
- If you moved to a GT3RS from a plain GT3 or a non-GT car, did you find yourself driving your 911 less often? If you drive it less, is it the extreme nature of the car? Fewer creature comforts (e.g. the LWB seats)? The conspicuousness? Wanting to preserve the value of the car?
- Value of my 997 RS 4.0 bothered me and inhibited driving; why it went to a better home. Others no. And with current volumes being produced trying to keep miles down to preserve value is a losers game. Life is short - shut up and drive.
- Do you have two (or more) sets of wheels? Do you swap wheels yourself? Have you ever dropped the rim on your PCCB rotor? Do you have a set of more "all-season" tires so that you can drive the car when it's below 40 F outside?
- Nope, but if you plan to track a lot it's a good idea to have an extra set of wheels. Get the center lock alignment tool to avoid hitting the rotors.
- Have you bottomed or scraped the front of your car beyond just scuffing the "sacrificial" rubber splitter lip?
- Only when I go Dukes of Hazard.
- Do you have a front plate?
- Not required in my situation.
- When you track your car, do you buy the insurance?
- Absolutely. Have seen all kinds of incidents at DE's, up to and including rollovers. Porsche repairs get expensive quick and insurance is cheap peace of mind.
- Are you happy that you bought the car? What are the best (and worst) things about owning a GT3RS?
- My fourth one so nuff said.
Thanks and happy motoring!
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#8
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.2 GT3 owner here but will say the best driving experience of my life was a .1 3RS on track. Love the agressive pdk shifts on track and sure they are fun on street too. I went .2 because MT is a must have for me but the .1 RS would have been my next choice.
#9
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I liked my .1 RS a ton. I traded it for a Radical and a 991.2S because I was using the RS as a dedicated track car and figured the Radical would be better for that purpose. The .1RS is a great street car - better in some regards than either GT3 because of rear visibility (higher wing).
When I had the RS I also had an Open Track policy - so yes, I ensured it for track use. I couldn't accept the idea of a total loss of a $230K car (prices when I owned mine). Note: I don't have a policy on the Radical - feels different and cheaper anyway.
Thing I liked the most: PDK on the track. It's absolutely perfect
Thing I liked the least: atrocious PCM and no back-up camera
If you want an RS totally go for it. It's a great car. My humble opinion (and not shared by many on RL) is that the .2 GT3 is a better all around car than the .1RS including track use. When I bought my GT3 I could have picked up another RS for the same money.
When I had the RS I also had an Open Track policy - so yes, I ensured it for track use. I couldn't accept the idea of a total loss of a $230K car (prices when I owned mine). Note: I don't have a policy on the Radical - feels different and cheaper anyway.
Thing I liked the most: PDK on the track. It's absolutely perfect
Thing I liked the least: atrocious PCM and no back-up camera
If you want an RS totally go for it. It's a great car. My humble opinion (and not shared by many on RL) is that the .2 GT3 is a better all around car than the .1RS including track use. When I bought my GT3 I could have picked up another RS for the same money.
#10
I would keep your 991.1 C2 and enjoy driving it daily without the conspicuousness of the RS wing unless you are in a place with perfect roads. If you daily the RS it will feel less special and if it has LWB it will be a pain to get in and out of. I had intended to daily mine but in practical terms, has been impossible to do so, not to mention the depreciation of extra miles while you sit in traffic in roads with potholes. That's the beauty of the regular C2/C2S, it's a Swiss knife. You would be replacing it with a scalpel.... do you really want to use a scalpel for bread and butter???
1-Never scraped front and don't have front axle lift either
2-Single set of wheels
3-Have iron brake discs, very nice modulation slow speeds/traffic, dust pita....
4-no front plate
5-best thing? feels like you're driving a 934/935 race car on the road minus the turbo lag; lovely sounds, amazing feedback, feels so good, tight and controlled, makes you feel in absolute control, amazing engine and pdk combo, and RS is RS;
6-worst thing? needs a track, and a'hem my Tesla 3P is faster 98% of the time though a sterile experience (sad...)
1-Never scraped front and don't have front axle lift either
2-Single set of wheels
3-Have iron brake discs, very nice modulation slow speeds/traffic, dust pita....
4-no front plate
5-best thing? feels like you're driving a 934/935 race car on the road minus the turbo lag; lovely sounds, amazing feedback, feels so good, tight and controlled, makes you feel in absolute control, amazing engine and pdk combo, and RS is RS;
6-worst thing? needs a track, and a'hem my Tesla 3P is faster 98% of the time though a sterile experience (sad...)
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#12
I moved from a 991.1 C2s to a gen 2 nsx and then to a 991.1 RS. So far I've put 6k miles on the RS in 6 months, more than what I've done for the other cars in a year. It's very comfortable for me to ride in. The exhaust drone can get annoying sometimes, but can be solved by driving faster.
#13
After renting a 991.1 GT3RS for a trackday, I'm seriously thinking about trading my 991.1 C2 for a used 2016 991.1 GT3RS. Looking for some advice...
Thanks and happy motoring!
- Asking prices seem to be 165-175 for private party sales, (less for high mile track cars) with transaction prices perhaps $5K under ask, based on BAT results. These cars typically have 6-12 months of warranty remaining. CPO asking prices typically 175-190, transaction prices unknown, with prices in the northeast higher than the rest of the country. Is CPO worth the extra money? After factoring in transportation costs, it doesn't seem worth the hassle to buy a mid-west car and have it transported.
- If you moved to a GT3RS from a plain GT3 or a non-GT car, did you find yourself driving your 911 less often? If you drive it less, is it the extreme nature of the car? Fewer creature comforts (e.g. the LWB seats)? The conspicuousness? Wanting to preserve the value of the car?
- Do you have two (or more) sets of wheels? Do you swap wheels yourself? Have you ever dropped the rim on your PCCB rotor? Do you have a set of more "all-season" tires so that you can drive the car when it's below 40 F outside?
- Have you bottomed or scraped the front of your car beyond just scuffing the "sacrificial" rubber splitter lip?
- Do you have a front plate?
- When you track your car, do you buy the insurance?
- Are you happy that you bought the car? What are the best (and worst) things about owning a GT3RS?
Thanks and happy motoring!
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Originally Posted by Dr.Bill
I agree. I would not trade my .2GT3 for a .1GT3RS. Plus, the .2GT3 has a better engine.