robmypro

Yep. Let's say you are in the camp that all .1 GT3 engines will fail. If you drive it, you will have a failure and new revised engine. No downside. If you think that the .1 engine is not problematic and you are not likely to have an engine failure, you get the next 5 years to prove you are right or wrong.

Also, this is the entire engine. Other things can go wrong outside the FF. More incentive to drive it like you stole it, track it, and rack up the miles.

BryanCO

The difference is between existing owners and prospective buyers. If you already own one, the engine warranty is awesome but prospective buyers have to understand their expected use, ownership length, entry and exit values, ‘comfort’ with a potential engine issue, etc.

bigkraig

Had one and had a lot of track days cut short by random problems, so even if Porsche replaces the engine it can still ruin a weekend..

robmypro

Agree Bryan that all of those things have to be weighed. But it isn't like existing owners aren't doing the same math.

groundhog

Exactement .

Also its worth recognising the distinction between fault and flaw - in the case of the 991.1 GT3 there is a design flaw. However, Porsche did step up to the plate - it took a long time, the problem was well recognised the failure rate beggared belief. In my view, Porsche management did not cover themselves in glory and they/dealers do not disclose it as an issue on resale. So it is a true case of caveat emptor.

MarcusG

I have almost 48,000 miles on my 2015 F engine.

Listen to Rodsky and Rob.

Buy it since it's a great deal I'm assuming and drive the hell out of it.

Like Rob said, if you worry about it, she will blow. If you don't worry about **** like me and drive it like it's your last day on earth, nothing will happen.

If it does fail you get a new G updated engine and that's the one that will last so it's a lot like buying a .2 anyway.

Win win!

Don't be afraid to drive these cars.

Don't lose the dream!

Pc007

Thats it! Everything was covered here. This “drive it as you wanna break it” perspective it’s really genius....a good sale perspective..

how much for for a new engine out of warranty? Anyone knows??

thanks

Pc007

Thank you guys for the fantastic feedback, for all the perspectives and opinions presented here, some pro buy, some against buy, but all making sense! This is helping me reflect a lot, bit one thing I now for sure, the GT3 it’s a hell of a car!

majedameeri

The bill my Porsche dealer showed me for my engine replacement on my 2015 GT3 was for 40,000 dollars with labor all covered under warranty.

hf1

That's about the .1 vs .2 diff. With a .1 you get to drive it like you stole it for 5 years and your worst case is paying the 40k diff out of warranty. With a .2 you pay the diff no matter what.

R35driver

You buy the .1 GT3 now for lets say 130k. 5 years from now after alot of miles and track days its worth 90-100k. You blow the engine and spend 40k to fix it. Now all in... you have lost 70-80k on the car.

Now lets say you buy a .2 for 170k instead. 5 years later you sell it for 120-130k (pretty realistic). All in you have lost 40-50k.

robmypro

I think it is more accurate to say you buy the .1 for $120k. Sell in 5 years for $90-$100k. Total cost $20k to $30k since you are not paying for engines. And if the engine was replaced during that period I (or the next owner) would have a lot warmer fuzzy knowing the new engine is solid. And for all we know the .2 engine could blow out of warranty before the .1 warranty even runs out. So many variables.

I think it really comes down to which car you like the most. Do you want a manual? Are you going to track the crap out of it for the next 5 years? If this is a long-term keeper I would want to have the engine replaced in the .1. Period. Any engine put in after 12/31/2017 should be the new one. Any engine replaced before that (or original) is suspect imo, but not guaranteed to be bad. I have 32k miles and no problems. Runs strong! But for peace of mind, I would like to see an engine replaced in 2018 and beyond. If that happens with mine total long-term keeper. I just hope it happens in 3 or 4 years lol.

If I were coming into a GT3 now and had to decide...that is tough. Again, do I want a manual? If so, no choice. If PDK... how much do I want to spend, and how long am I going to keep it? Do I really need Apple Carplay? Is the extra power enough to spend an extra $40k to $50k? Tough call. I would "probably" go the .2 just because I would like to try the manual, plus 4 is better than 3.8. :-) But I say that because I have 3.5 years of driving the PDK. If I didn't....tough call.

hf1

Not if you put a lot of miles and track days on your .2 and if you get a new engine for your .1 in the next 5 years under warranty. The current $50k price diff will only shrink with time as .2 has more depreciation left vs. the .1. This doesn't include lower cost of insurance or lower risk (if you self-insure) that comes with driving and tracking a cheaper car. From a purely financial angle, I think the .1 wins under almost all possible scenarios.

vf430

Well said. I have 24 k miles on my 2015 and had 7 k on my prior 2015 gt3 both have been solid cars zero issues and tons of canyon and track time. For me this gen has been most reliable compared to issues on 996 997.1 and .2. Just buy it drive it and not worry , if it fails warranty will cover. I have my brothers car a .2 gt3 with me , there isn’t much difference between the 2 other than mild increment in mid range torque. Buy the best car you can afford , can’t go wrong with either !

Pc007

thanks, guys! really helpful insights here!! have to do a lot of thinking the next few days...