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Old 05-08-2019, 08:10 AM
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Default 15 GT3 with high copper in oil

After 2 track events over 5 days my local P car Indy noticed a lot of copper in the oil. I spoke to my local dealer and they need to do their own sample and told me to go to my next event which is tomorrow at lime rock.

I don’t have an actual cooper count but Sam from Elite knows his stuff. I will view the sample later today.

Only copper parts are the main bearing and rod bearings correct?

My car has the original engine.

Any info would be appreciated.
Old 05-08-2019, 09:19 AM
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Motor Check the lab I user in West Palm an FYI
"understanding Your Report " states for engines , Copper: Bearings, Bushings, Thrust Washers, Oil Cooler, Clutches, and oil additive in some gasoline motor oils.

at or below 20 PP one million
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Originally Posted by Michael_s
my local P car Indy noticed a lot of copper in the oil.
What does this mean? Does your indy have X-ray vision?? Did he run a UOA??? If he ran an UOA, what's the ppm????
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Originally Posted by LexVan
What does this mean? Does your indy have X-ray vision?? Did he run a UOA??? If he ran an UOA, what's the ppm????
If it’s really bad, you can sometimes see fragments on the filter paper
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Well if he could see copper particles in the filter I would think the ppm would be off the charts. I'm doing my first oil change next week and a sample is going straight to blackstone.
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I'm doing my first oil change next week and a sample is going straight to blackstone.
That's a very good plan on your part, but, keep in mind it's only one test. Keep doing them. After about 4 UOAs you'll start to see a trend-line. What you are looking for is the wear metals (Alum., Iron, and CU) to "freeze" and neither up or down (as your OCI and use stays the same). Then have reached oil nirvana.
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Originally Posted by GrantG
If it’s really bad, you can sometimes see fragments on the filter paper
This plus he can see it in the sample. Going there now. No ppm report. By sight.



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